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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 08:20 PM
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Clutch pedal is dead. Please HELP!!! ASAP!!!

I just had the clutch replaced last week, as well as several motor mounts, and all ion all put a lot of money into my car. My cousin was driving my car tonight with me in the truck, and when he pulled to a stop sign, he pushed in the clutch and it went straight to the floor. NO RESISTANCE AT ALL!!!
and it does not come back either. it stays on the floor.

When you open the hood and listen, you can hear a squish .. squish sound as you move the pedal in and out by hand. (one squish for each direction. Its very loud. sounds liek a hose is loose and its just open fluid bubbling with air through a small opening.

Any ideas on whats wrong? If this is expensive i foresee my mother fixing and selling this car asap as she is more of a fan of Toyota that you drive 200k miles without breaking... and this car is starting to **** her off, and its actually starting to even wear on me a bit...
 
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Old Dec 30, 2009 | 09:12 PM
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Have you taken the car back to the repair shop that did the repair?
 
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 05:33 AM
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no, this happened last night on some back roads, but we were coming to a gas station. The car isn't more than 2 miles from my house, but the guy who did the work is in Atlanta, which is ~180miles away.
I think one of the lines for the hydraulic clutch popped off.
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or better thoughts?
 
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 05:47 AM
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That is a high pressurre hydraulic line with threaded fittings, so it didn't just pop of. The line either ruptured, one of the fittings was not adequately tightened, or the clutch slave cylinder came loose.

Is the clutch hydraulic fluid low? If so fill it back up again, pump the clutch and see where it's leaking.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 08:06 AM
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We actually did the clutch install for him. I talked to him this morning. It sounds like his slave cylinder died, obviously this is pretty common. We NEVER disconnect the clutch line for any repair unless it is absolutly necessary. Bleeding the clutch can be such a pain we don't want to do it unless we have too.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 12:27 PM
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Turns out the clutch line did come disconnected, and leaked fluid out of the brake reservoir until it was just below the clutch feed line. the entire lien was dry, but i had it towed to a shop next to my house and they fixed it for me in ~ an hour for 50 bucks. (had to use a vacuum bleeder)
It came disconnected here (red circle)
 
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by lhoboy
That is a high pressurre hydraulic line with threaded fittings, so it didn't just pop of. The line either ruptured, one of the fittings was not adequately tightened, or the clutch slave cylinder came loose.

Is the clutch hydraulic fluid low? If so fill it back up again, pump the clutch and see where it's leaking.

Thats very incorrect. Not a sinle connection on the hydralic clutch line has a screw together joint, they are all press/snap connections. And from experience, i promise you these joints DO pop off unexpectedly.


To the OP; like way said this is a common problem on the minis especially after a clutch install (from my reading). The slave cylinder is only $50 and the labor on it is not bad at all. Need a 12mm socket and a 11mm wrench to swap it out. Do a search of this site and also google and there are a few DIY in replacing this part. A pressure bleeder ($50) will make your life easier, and the BMW tool will too (not entirely needed though if you can make shift something). One person even used duct tape to compress the slave during the process; while not my first choice i dont see why it wouldnt work.

GL !!
 
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 12:30 PM
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Well...you responded while i was typing.


Those fittings suck, and you might want to consider replacing that line. (from red circle to slave) I was having lots of issues with my joint (at the slave) and after replacing the whole line (on the side of the road mind you) i have had zero issues since. The line is only $15 or so from your Mini dealer.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by KC Jr 54
Thats very incorrect. Not a sinle connection on the hydralic clutch line has a screw together joint, they are all press/snap connections. And from experience, i promise you these joints DO pop off unexpectedly.
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I count at least 3 or 4 (maybe 5) in the diagram above.Unless you have replaced all your hoses with aeroquip disconnect, you have nothing but threaded hydraulic fittings on your MINI. The only snap connectors are associated with air pressure or vacuum lines.
 
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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 01:54 PM
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You really need to acquaint yourself with that system, b/c i promise you the connections are nothing but a snap fitting. One metal retaining ring, and then squeeze the black fitting tabs together and out POPs the line. The lines DO NOT screw together.

lhoboy have you replaced your slave or anything related to that system yourself ?

If you find a threaded connection on your first gen Mini take a photo of it and point it out to me, please !!


P.S. Once upon a time i ASSUMED they were threaded too
 

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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by KC Jr 54
If you find a threaded connection on your first gen Mini take a photo of it and point it out to me, please !!

You are correct. Upon looking into it, I see that the brake fittings are all threaded, but the clutch fittings are plastic quick disconnects. I stand corrected.
 

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Old Dec 31, 2009 | 06:27 PM
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The threaded fitting above is the brake line from the brake master cylinder. The black ribbed tube right above that is the feed tube for the clutch master. The clutch master cylinder is inside the car,with zero threaded connections.
 
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