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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 08:55 AM
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For those customers who have been tuned by Mynes Performance (either by Jason in Phx or Hubie in Lake Forest, CA) since Oct 2008, pls feel free to post your feedback regarding our custom tunes.

Those customers who were tuned by us in AMVIV, you're welcome to post it in here as well.

Every car is different so pls post your experience before and after the tune, and if you have some suggestions for areas of improvements, pls feel free to post it in here as well.

If follow-up or corrective actions are required from our part, pls feel free to call the shop or shoot me a PM so we can work things out

General items to include:
1. How your car was running before our tune?
2. How it runs after the tune?
3. What mods?
4. Any issues or problems with your MINI after the tune?
5. What suggestions do you have for us?

cheers.
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Below are the quotes from our customers (consolidated for easy reading) => updated 4/1/09:
Originally Posted by ChocolateAZ
I had mine tuned last week after adding the 550cc injectors. With a stage 1 head, OBX header, custom straight out exhaust, Magnaflow highflow metallic cat, 15% SC pulley, 2% crank pulley, Water/meth, electric waterpump, urethane engine mounts/TSW torque damper, flux capacitor(plasma booster), Brisk plugs, Turner race wires, Screamin Demon coil, DFIC, umm... oh and m7 AGS.

Ok I think thats it. I had been having problems with a long start when the car was hot and had been sitting for more thn about 20 minutes. The tune fixed it. The only changes between this tune, and the last dyno day results were the electric water pump, after removing the OEM mechanical waterpump, and the new injectors. I went from 216whp/161wtq to 244wh/179wtq. It also got me a 4mpg improvement in my mileage.
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General items to include:
1. How your car was running before our tune?
The car is/was a factory JCW car before my first Mynes tune. I would say the car ran fine before, the throttle response a tad slow maybe my only complaint.

2. How it runs after the tune?
The car ran like it should have felt from the factory after the tune. It felt like it had "grew a pair" if you know what I mean. The raised rev limiter helped immensely - the car wants to keep pulling and pulling all the way to the redline.

3. What mods?
RMW Street Header / RMW Street Cam / JCW Performance Package

4. Any issues or problems with your MINI after the tune?
I haven't had a tune related issue with my vehicle! They have helped me with non-tune related issues also.

5. What suggestions do you have for us?
When I first learned that there was a tuning company other than RMW, I was honestly a little skeptical - only because what little MINI information I knew was all from NAM, and a large population of NAM is SoCal, that is perfectly fine.

I checked into their website; at the time is was rather bleek, not much different than RMW... I really didn't want to drive to CA just to get a tune; Mynes is right in my backyard though and I said "well lets give it a shot". Another odd thing was that they tune Evo/WRX type cars and the name of the company had me thinking of a specific JDM company with a very similar name - just threw me off a little.

I was greeted by Mike when I got there, I really didn't know what to think - just went with the flow. Mike and the rest of Mynes really went out of their way to make me feel at home - not as a customer, but as part of a family that is more than just wrenching on cars. Everytime I go there, we can just be like "young kids" and joke about stupid car stuff etc. etc.

Anyways - my car turned out great after the tune - I met some new friends - and I'm happy to deal with them. I'm glad to see them posting here finally and trying to get involved here.

The only complaints I have are.. It always smells like food there, Mike is busy cooking something up! They have a fouton bed/couch for customers or whoever to relax on - it looks like everyone sleeps on it HA HA! And they have an odd collection of Option videos and Disney movies (some of the workers families come up and hang out with their "second family")

If you are in the area, swing by and check out what they are all about, friendly environment that loves what they do.
Originally Posted by SRTech
My MINI was tuned at AMVIV this year by the Mynes group. Previously, my car has run very well except for a lack of smoothness at part throttle acceleration. My mods are in my sig. and I have run the stock JCW tune and the MTH tune. There was no real difference between these two tunes except that the MTH raised the rev. limiter to 7200 rpm (actually 7140 according to Hubie). I have dynoed on the Edge Motorworks dyno in Dublin, CA which is notorious for low numbers. My car dynoed 154hp/148tq totally stock with 2000 miles on the odometer. The last dyno at 80K miles with all my current mods gave 197hp/168tq. I now have over 130K miles. My first test of the tune was on the way home with about 200 lbs. of tools in the back, a passenger and about a 30 mph headwind. My car felt like it didn't have the load or the wind. I still pulled away from our convoy of MINIs when I accelerated.

Since I've been back, I've had to readjust my take-offs from the traffic signals on Shaw Ave; I can't seem to keep the wheels from spinning in first gear. I may have to move up from a 215/40 series tire to a wider 45 series tire to make first gear usable. There doesn't seem like there is a whole lot more power below 2500 rpm, but it takes off like a rocket after that. Throttle response is also much improved as is part throttle smoothness. I still haven't really had a chance to push it on the open road because of the traffic around Fresno and on Highway 41. We need a local drag strip. I hope to dyno the car at Edge next week if I get a chance and will give an update.

Steve
Added: 4/2/09
Originally Posted by Usagee
I've had some long standing issues involving anemic torque and power delivery. Despite additional modifications, diagnostics, and past dyno tunings from other professionals on the scene, the car always lacked the grit and verve so many other MINI owners have had the pleasure to experience through their own vehicles.

Word on the streets of AMVIV was that the people at Mynes were top notch, so I gave them a crack at the problem with no real expectations. After a short time, Hubie was able to pinpoint the culprit. A mere boost leak from the waste gate/bypass valve was responsible for 8 psi of lost boost. Before this diagnosis, I was contemplating throwing the kitchen sink at my MINI by purchasing a new supercharger or turbo out of desperation in hopes of solving the dilemma.

They were able to fix the problem with a 5¢ zip-tie. After a short tune, the car came alive. It finally had the bite and aggressiveness I've been looking for. Thanks to Mynes and the gang, this nagging problem was finally put to rest.
Originally Posted by TonyB
Agreed...

1. How your car was running before our tune?

She was running just fine. The day before I had a head & cam install at Johnny's...

2. How it runs after the tune?

Afterwards she runs fine also. Not much difference down low, but above 3k, quite noticeable. How much was the head, cam or tune... I don't know.

3. What mods?

Engine / drivetrain wise...

HAI, 15/2, DFIC2, 380's, Cosworth BVH, new plugs, Newman Cam, SuperSprint header (ceramic coated & stock cat) and 2.5" straight exhaust

4. Any issues or problems with your MINI after the tune?

None. No lights or anything like that. This tune was done almost 2 months ago... The only "problem" is the increased noise, which is to be expected when pumping more air; and attributable to head, cam and tune... I have a straight exhaust, so louder than most.

5. What suggestions do you have for us?

Find a way to do a remote tune and/or at least travel the country to help others I don't know... These threads, that one in particular, should prove to be be quite helpful as a repository of information.

Someone asked earlier about how many pulls are needed to get a tune. I suppose that might be case dependent, but on mine, we did a dozen or so as I recall, spaced about 10 minutes apart.

Hubie made it clear early-on that his dyno reads lower that most and if I'd be cool with that. As we see in this thread, that seems to be a concern for some. Not for me. I just see it as a tool, and want to use the same one, at the same location and ideally with the same operator...

Thanks much.
Added: 4/4/09
Originally Posted by ez1putt
I'm very happy that I picked Mynes to tune my car they bend over backwards to help you and tell you what they are doing to your car. As far as mod's I have a HAI,15%/2%,RMW shorty header,Newman cam and Mike's 550cc injectors. Jay worked his majic and got 234 whp and 194 ft-lb torque he also ajusted when the cooling fan comes on and off (a big deal in AZ) . So if you want to meet with some great guys that really know what they are doing go to Mynes or have them come to your town and tune your cars.

Added: 4/8/09
Originally Posted by Mike@Mynes
Barry at MC2 Magazine (http://www.mc2magazine.com/) was kind enough to provide us a soft copy of their May/June 2007 Featured article in which one of our customers (Tex Guthrie) competed against 10 other modified Mini's at the Spring Mountain Track. Tex's car (with his son driving) got the fastest time, but when Tex drove, he got the highest speed on the track... At that time, Tex's car was pushing 228WHP on our MD and this was back in early 2007.

It's worthy to note that Tex has the stock SC and the 2nd fastest car has the M62 SC. Only his car was custom tuned by Mynes on the stock ecu, while the rest were a mixture of MTH, Dinan, Shark Injector, etc...

A copy of the article can be found here: http://www.mynesperformance.com/Home/-MC2article.html

Once again, a BIG THANKS to Barry at MC2
Added: 4/12/09 (El Paso Tuning Party Results):
Originally Posted by Mike@Mynes
We wrapped up from the El Paso tune and are happy with some very cool new customers. Thank you to all for giving us a chance to prove our work.

The Mustang Dyno at the Western Technical College was such a heart-breaker, but that did not stop us from getting some awesome results... After we got the baseline runs, everyone had worried faces... but by the time we got done with all the cars, there were nothing but smiles on everyone's faces

Here are the baseline numbers (before the tuning and injectors):
1) Dr.Phil was last tuned by another shop and got 180hp (w/o cam) on the dynapak in Utah. He had since added a Newman cam and is experiencing idling issues. His base pull with the CAM on this Mustang Dyno was 175WHP/161WTQE.

2) MDBSAT: His car was never tuned and his baseline was 155.8whp/144.3wtqe (15%, Crower Cam, Intake, RMW header, 380cc)

3) mininuke: 153whp/143wtqe with 15% pulley and untuned.

4) justintime: 105whp/?wtqe (this is a 2006 Cooper) - sorry Justin, i will ask Richard at the dyno shop to confirm your base numbers... i thought i had it written down :(

Post-tune numbers:
1) Dr.Phil: 196WHP/171WTQE (Delta of 21 WHP & 10 WTQE) from the addition of the 550cc injectors and Mynes Tune.

2) MDBSAT: 193WHP/168WTQE (Delta of 38 WHP & 24 WTQE) from the addition of the 550cc injectors and Mynes Tune.

3) mininuke: 193.5WHP/165.4WTQE (Delta of 40 WHP & 22 WTQE) from the addition of the 550cc injectors, Newman Cam and Mynes Tune.

4) justintime: 110.3WHP/105.5WTQE (Delta of 5 WHP?) from the Mynes Tune on the Cooper with smoother running car (will confirm the base numbers and provide update later).

Thanks again you guys and we look forward to working with you guys in the near future.

cheers.
mike
 

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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 09:13 AM
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I'd like to hear some info on those tunes and 550 injectors.
 
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I'd like to hear some info on those tunes and 550 injectors.
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Im tuned on 550cc injectors, not only am i getting more performance, but I am not sacrificing gas mileage My car was running lean with stock injectors, I dont throw codes, and the only problem I have is that I will still go into limp mode for going 139mph
 
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Old Apr 1, 2009 | 09:25 AM
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Im tuned on 550cc injectors, not only am i getting more performance, but I am not sacrificing gas mileage My car was running lean with stock injectors, I dont throw codes, and the only problem I have is that I will still go into limp mode for going 139mph
Dam 139mph LIMP MODE
 
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who do we contact for tuning in Lake Forest, CA?
 
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who do we contact for tuning in Lake Forest, CA?

feel free to PM, call, or email me anytime. look forward to hearing from you.

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My MINI was tuned at AMVIV this year by the Mynes group. Previously, my car has run very well except for a lack of smoothness at part throttle acceleration. My mods are in my sig. and I have run the stock JCW tune and the MTH tune. There was no real difference between these two tunes except that the MTH raised the rev. limiter to 7200 rpm (actually 7140 according to Hubie). I have dynoed on the Edge Motorworks dyno in Dublin, CA which is notorious for low numbers. My car dynoed 154hp/148tq totally stock with 2000 miles on the odometer. The last dyno at 80K miles with all my current mods gave 197hp/168tq. I now have over 130K miles. My first test of the tune was on the way home with about 200 lbs. of tools in the back, a passenger and about a 30 mph headwind. My car felt like it didn't have the load or the wind. I still pulled away from our convoy of MINIs when I accelerated.

Since I've been back, I've had to readjust my take-offs from the traffic signals on Shaw Ave; I can't seem to keep the wheels from spinning in first gear. I may have to move up from a 215/40 series tire to a wider 45 series tire to make first gear usable. There doesn't seem like there is a whole lot more power below 2500 rpm, but it takes off like a rocket after that. Throttle response is also much improved as is part throttle smoothness. I still haven't really had a chance to push it on the open road because of the traffic around Fresno and on Highway 41. We need a local drag strip. I hope to dyno the car at Edge next week if I get a chance and will give an update.

Steve
 
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feel free to PM, call, or email me anytime. look forward to hearing from you.

hubie
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thanx
 
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General items to include:
1. How your car was running before our tune?
The car is/was a factory JCW car before my first Mynes tune. I would say the car ran fine before, the throttle response a tad slow maybe my only complaint.

2. How it runs after the tune?
The car ran like it should have felt from the factory after the tune. It felt like it had "grew a pair" if you know what I mean. The raised rev limiter helped immensely - the car wants to keep pulling and pulling all the way to the redline.

3. What mods?
RMW Street Header / RMW Street Cam / JCW Performance Package

4. Any issues or problems with your MINI after the tune?
I haven't had a tune related issue with my vehicle! They have helped me with non-tune related issues also.

5. What suggestions do you have for us?
When I first learned that there was a tuning company other than RMW, I was honestly a little skeptical - only because what little MINI information I knew was all from NAM, and a large population of NAM is SoCal, that is perfectly fine.

I checked into their website; at the time is was rather bleek, not much different than RMW... I really didn't want to drive to CA just to get a tune; Mynes is right in my backyard though and I said "well lets give it a shot". Another odd thing was that they tune Evo/WRX type cars and the name of the company had me thinking of a specific JDM company with a very similar name - just threw me off a little.

I was greeted by Mike when I got there, I really didn't know what to think - just went with the flow. Mike and the rest of Mynes really went out of their way to make me feel at home - not as a customer, but as part of a family that is more than just wrenching on cars. Everytime I go there, we can just be like "young kids" and joke about stupid car stuff etc. etc.

Anyways - my car turned out great after the tune - I met some new friends - and I'm happy to deal with them. I'm glad to see them posting here finally and trying to get involved here.

The only complaints I have are.. It always smells like food there, Mike is busy cooking something up! They have a fouton bed/couch for customers or whoever to relax on - it looks like everyone sleeps on it HA HA! And they have an odd collection of Option videos and Disney movies (some of the workers families come up and hang out with their "second family")

If you are in the area, swing by and check out what they are all about, friendly environment that loves what they do.
 

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From SRTech's post, do I read that the car was not dyno-tuned at AMVIV? How did you get such improvement if not with a dyno--on-road tuning?
If you used a dyno, wouldn't you have the numbers from the tune?
 
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Originally Posted by DrPhilGandini
From SRTech's post, do I read that the car was not dyno-tuned at AMVIV? How did you get such improvement if not with a dyno--on-road tuning?
If you used a dyno, wouldn't you have the numbers from the tune?
The cars at AMVIV were tuned on the road. Every time i looked up I saw a car heading out with a " sniffer " attached to the tail pipe LOL

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Originally Posted by DrPhilGandini
From SRTech's post, do I read that the car was not dyno-tuned at AMVIV? How did you get such improvement if not with a dyno--on-road tuning?
If you used a dyno, wouldn't you have the numbers from the tune?
We had a MoTeC wideband attached to the tailpipe with a clamp that gave us the AFR; the driver reads out the RPM and the navigator note the AFR at those ranges and make changes to the fuel maps accordingly.

The ones that had 550cc injectors were scaled and trimmed in the parking lot after they were installed. We use our Autologic tool to clear adaptions and do real-time monitoring of the ECU's running values.

It takes coordination and teamwork, but we've got it done. The hardest part was finding a long enough stretch of road that we can go thru 1st, 2nd and 3rd gears Vegas traffic su#ks.
 
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The hardest part was finding a long enough stretch of road that we can go thru 1st, 2nd and 3rd gears Vegas traffic su#ks.
I'd hate to try that around the streets here in California, at least during the day!


I'm sure the officers would be very interested to find out what the heck you've got stuck in your tailpipe.

 
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I can see it now... "Why Officer I was just testing the emissions... making sure it is acceptable at 7000RPMs... "
 
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You guys would have fun road-tuning here in Kansas .
 
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honestly i know a few local tuners that would rather road tune than dyno tune

dyno tune is for basis and figures, real world performance is on the road

lets get back on topic tho
 
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Originally Posted by KandyRedCoi
honestly i know a few local tuners that would rather road tune than dyno tune

dyno tune is for basis and figures, real world performance is on the road

lets get back on topic tho
If tuned on a 'loaded' dyno, then it's as good as real-life (street run) gets... Any MD, Dyno Dynamic or DynoJet with Eddy Current device. When we tuned on our MD dyno, there's no need for adjustments on the street... what you see on the dyno is what you're going to get on the streets
 
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Originally Posted by Mike@Mynes
If tuned on a 'loaded' dyno, then it's as good as real-life (street run) gets... Any MD, Dyno Dynamic or DynoJet with Eddy Current device. When we tuned on our MD dyno, there's no need for adjustments on the street... what you see on the dyno is what you're going to get on the streets
Couple questions Mike.

When you guys tune on the Dyno how long does it take for say a mildly modded car?

Also, how many pulls do you need to do until you get the tune really dialed in?

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Couple questions Mike.

When you guys tune on the Dyno how long does it take for say a mildly modded car?

Also, how many pulls do you need to do until you get the tune really dialed in?

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It depends on the car that is being tuned. Those times varies
 
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Mike I totally agree and understand what u are saying

i just wanted to bring up the point with some members that are sceptical about street tuning
 
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I know that this analogy maybe a bit too much but don't F1 cars get retuned after each practice run? I am sure that they have in-house dyno but the final tuning is still in the track.
 
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Mynes tuned...is yours?

I had mine tuned last week after adding the 550cc injectors. With a stage 1 head, OBX header, custom straight out exhaust, Magnaflow highflow metallic cat, 15% SC pulley, 2% crank pulley, Water/meth, electric waterpump, urethane engine mounts/TSW torque damper, flux capacitor(plasma booster), Brisk plugs, Turner race wires, Screamin Demon coil, DFIC, umm... oh and m7 AGS.

Ok I think thats it. I had been having problems with a long start when the car was hot and had been sitting for more thn about 20 minutes. The tune fixed it. The only changes between this tune, and the last dyno day results were the electric water pump, after removing the OEM mechanical waterpump, and the new injectors. I went from 216whp/161wtq to 244wh/179wtq. It also got me a 4mpg improvement in my mileage.
 
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Originally Posted by ChocolateAZ
I had mine tuned last week after adding the 550cc injectors. With a stage 1 head, OBX header, custom straight out exhaust, Magnaflow highflow metallic cat, 15% SC pulley, 2% crank pulley, Water/meth, electric waterpump, urethane engine mounts/TSW torque damper, flux capacitor(plasma booster), Brisk plugs, Turner race wires, Screamin Demon coil, DFIC, umm... oh and m7 AGS.

Ok I think thats it. I had been having problems with a long start when the car was hot and had been sitting for more thn about 20 minutes. The tune fixed it. The only changes between this tune, and the last dyno day results were the electric water pump, after removing the OEM mechanical waterpump, and the new injectors. I went from 216whp/161wtq to 244wh/179wtq. It also got me a 4mpg improvement in my mileage.
OMG!!! Thats one hell of a power hike!!! I WANT THE MYNES TUNE NOW NOW NOW!!!!
 
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