Drivetrain Mynes Tuned... is yours? (R53s)
I've had some long standing issues involving anemic torque and power delivery. Despite additional modifications, diagnostics, and past dyno tunings from other professionals on the scene, the car always lacked the grit and verve so many other MINI owners have had the pleasure to experience through their own vehicles.
Word on the streets of AMVIV was that the people at Mynes were top notch, so I gave them a crack at the problem with no real expectations. After a short time, Hubie was able to pinpoint the culprit. A mere boost leak from the waste gate/bypass valve was responsible for 8 psi of lost boost. Before this diagnosis, I was contemplating throwing the kitchen sink at my MINI by purchasing a new supercharger or turbo out of desperation in hopes of solving the dilemma.
They were able to fix the problem with a 5¢ zip-tie. After a short tune, the car came alive. It finally had the bite and aggressiveness I've been looking for. Thanks to Mynes and the gang, this nagging problem was finally put to rest.
Word on the streets of AMVIV was that the people at Mynes were top notch, so I gave them a crack at the problem with no real expectations. After a short time, Hubie was able to pinpoint the culprit. A mere boost leak from the waste gate/bypass valve was responsible for 8 psi of lost boost. Before this diagnosis, I was contemplating throwing the kitchen sink at my MINI by purchasing a new supercharger or turbo out of desperation in hopes of solving the dilemma.
They were able to fix the problem with a 5¢ zip-tie. After a short tune, the car came alive. It finally had the bite and aggressiveness I've been looking for. Thanks to Mynes and the gang, this nagging problem was finally put to rest.
Last edited by Usagee; Apr 8, 2009 at 05:04 PM.
I had mine tuned last week after adding the 550cc injectors. With a stage 1 head, OBX header, custom straight out exhaust, Magnaflow highflow metallic cat, 15% SC pulley, 2% crank pulley, Water/meth, electric waterpump, urethane engine mounts/TSW torque damper, flux capacitor(plasma booster), Brisk plugs, Turner race wires, Screamin Demon coil, DFIC, umm... oh and m7 AGS.
Ok I think thats it. I had been having problems with a long start when the car was hot and had been sitting for more thn about 20 minutes. The tune fixed it. The only changes between this tune, and the last dyno day results were the electric water pump, after removing the OEM mechanical waterpump, and the new injectors. I went from 216whp/161wtq to 244wh/179wtq. It also got me a 4mpg improvement in my mileage.
Ok I think thats it. I had been having problems with a long start when the car was hot and had been sitting for more thn about 20 minutes. The tune fixed it. The only changes between this tune, and the last dyno day results were the electric water pump, after removing the OEM mechanical waterpump, and the new injectors. I went from 216whp/161wtq to 244wh/179wtq. It also got me a 4mpg improvement in my mileage.
And? I am so happy for you. I am also very happy with where it is at right now. So...now yours looks pretty weak!
for all those mods u should be pulling 250+
on another note....exactly what do u need 550cc injectors for?seems to be a bit overkill...is the fuel pump even capable of running 550's as it sits...when i had my turbo civic i had to upgrade to 450cc injectors and had to install a walbro pump to compensate
and if i really wanted to get up there ill go get the RMW head and pull bout 260 but im not gonna take it to the final step till its ready to be rebuilt that way it will be done once and doesnt have to torn apart again and again
on another note....exactly what do u need 550cc injectors for?seems to be a bit overkill...is the fuel pump even capable of running 550's as it sits...when i had my turbo civic i had to upgrade to 450cc injectors and had to install a walbro pump to compensate
and if i really wanted to get up there ill go get the RMW head and pull bout 260 but im not gonna take it to the final step till its ready to be rebuilt that way it will be done once and doesnt have to torn apart again and again
for all those mods u should be pulling 250+
on another note....exactly what do u need 550cc injectors for?seems to be a bit overkill...is the fuel pump even capable of running 550's as it sits...when i had my turbo civic i had to upgrade to 450cc injectors and had to install a walbro pump to compensate
and if i really wanted to get up there ill go get the RMW head and pull bout 260 but im not gonna take it to the final step till its ready to be rebuilt that way it will be done once and doesnt have to torn apart again and again
on another note....exactly what do u need 550cc injectors for?seems to be a bit overkill...is the fuel pump even capable of running 550's as it sits...when i had my turbo civic i had to upgrade to 450cc injectors and had to install a walbro pump to compensate
and if i really wanted to get up there ill go get the RMW head and pull bout 260 but im not gonna take it to the final step till its ready to be rebuilt that way it will be done once and doesnt have to torn apart again and again
take a look at other users with the same level of modifications...on average the numbers are 250+..
but the question is...are ur 550s at max or are they scaled back...i wanna see a set up where the 550s are a max pressure and the stock fuel pump is keeping up and keeping consistant fuel pressure
but the question is...are ur 550s at max or are they scaled back...i wanna see a set up where the 550s are a max pressure and the stock fuel pump is keeping up and keeping consistant fuel pressure
take a look at other users with the same level of modifications...on average the numbers are 250+..
but the question is...are ur 550s at max or are they scaled back...i wanna see a set up where the 550s are a max pressure and the stock fuel pump is keeping up and keeping consistant fuel pressure
but the question is...are ur 550s at max or are they scaled back...i wanna see a set up where the 550s are a max pressure and the stock fuel pump is keeping up and keeping consistant fuel pressure
Work Cited page please?
I've had some long standing issues involving anemic torque and power delivery. Despite additional modifications, diagnostics, and past dyno tunings from other professionals on the scene, the car always lacked the grit and verve so many other MINI owners have had the pleasure to experience through their own vehicles.
Word on the streets of AMVIV was that the people at Mynes were top notch, so I gave them a crack at the problem with no real expectations. After a short time, Hubie was able to pinpoint the culprit. A mere boost leak from the waste gate/bypass valve was responsible for 8 psi of lost boost. Before this diagnosis, I was contemplating throwing the kitchen sink at my MINI by purchasing a new supercharger or turbo out of desperation in hopes of solving the dilemma.
They were able to fix the problem with a 5¢ zip-tie. After a short tune, the car came alive. It finally had the bite and aggressiveness I've been looking for. Thanks to Mynes and the gang, this nagging problem was finally put to rest.
Word on the streets of AMVIV was that the people at Mynes were top notch, so I gave them a crack at the problem with no real expectations. After a short time, Hubie was able to pinpoint the culprit. A mere boost leak from the waste gate/bypass valve was responsible for 8 psi of lost boost. Before this diagnosis, I was contemplating throwing the kitchen sink at my MINI by purchasing a new supercharger or turbo out of desperation in hopes of solving the dilemma.
They were able to fix the problem with a 5¢ zip-tie. After a short tune, the car came alive. It finally had the bite and aggressiveness I've been looking for. Thanks to Mynes and the gang, this nagging problem was finally put to rest.
The minute we looked at your old dyno graph we knew something was up... and that's why we didn't want to touch the ECU until we can resolve the mechanical issue... but yeah, thanks for giving us a chance
Now go and enjoy your car
cheers.
mike
take a look at other users with the same level of modifications...on average the numbers are 250+..
but the question is...are ur 550s at max or are they scaled back...i wanna see a set up where the 550s are a max pressure and the stock fuel pump is keeping up and keeping consistant fuel pressure
but the question is...are ur 550s at max or are they scaled back...i wanna see a set up where the 550s are a max pressure and the stock fuel pump is keeping up and keeping consistant fuel pressure
I think his numbers are quite strong for what he has.
Are you just looking at his signature and going by that as his list? Every car responds to mods differently and I don't know of too many Minis with over 250whp. We don't even know what head he has on his car? Thumper? RMW? Cosworth? Not to mention what specs the head was done to.
I think his numbers are quite strong for what he has.
I think his numbers are quite strong for what he has.
I run 550's with no problems and I'm making a little more HP
. If I were going to the track the car I would change to a return type fuel system. It's running at high RPM for a long period were you might have trouble. If that trouble come up it's ugly.Just my .02
Longboard
NOT ANOTHER DEBATE ON DYNO NUMBERS?!?!?
before any of us make broad statements pertaining to AVERAGE NUMBERS, we need look at the data set - type of dynamometer, corrections, locations, etc. I have been tuning MINIs on chassis dynos since 2002 and can only remember a couple of M45 MINIs with stock compression and displacement that have made more than 250WHP, none over 260WHP. But that doesn't mean they don't exist.
Correct me if I'm wrong, I believe your MINI was tuned at Church's facility on a Dynapack and made 215.7 hp. Shawn Church correctly states that vehicles tuned at his facility make XXX amount of horsepower at the HUBS, not the WHEELS. --- My next statement only pertains to the direct comparison of vehicles tuned on Church's Dynapack compared to our Mustang Dyno.--- If you were to bring your 215.7 Hub HP MINI to our facility, you would be lucky to break 190 Wheel HP. Does that mean your MINI was not professional tuned? NO. Does that mean something is wrong with Church's Dynapack or our Mustang Dyno? NO. Does that mean your MINI now runs slower and no longer performs according to your expectations? that depends - I have seen people react to their dyno numbers and tell me they perceive a difference, whether faster or slower. BTW, it's a know fact that racers perform better when you tell them they make more HP.
The point is, your MINI is the same, the only thing that is "hurt" is your ego and hopefully you will think twice before making statements like "...thats kinda weak.." "....you should be pulling..." and ".....on average the numbers are..."
All our MINIs are unique and the only people we need to impress are ourselves.
my ego hurt?nah...just cant take my mini down right now to have it torn apart and rebuilt because that would mean crating the engine back to irvine to let jan do his work....besides hp doesnt get u off the line...its torque and im fine where i sit
[quote=DR FUH;2721600]
The point is, your MINI is the same, the only thing that is "hurt" is your ego and hopefully you will think twice before making statements like "...thats kinda weak.." "....you should be pulling..." and ".....on average the numbers are..."
All our MINIs are unique and the only people we need to impress are ourselves.[/quote]
This post wins. Thank you Fuh.
The point is, your MINI is the same, the only thing that is "hurt" is your ego and hopefully you will think twice before making statements like "...thats kinda weak.." "....you should be pulling..." and ".....on average the numbers are..."
All our MINIs are unique and the only people we need to impress are ourselves.[/quote]
This post wins. Thank you Fuh.
Glad to see that you understand it's not just about the number...
im going to continue to be skeptical until i see a consistant body of work...i know jan's products work and i know he has an impressive resume and tuning ability...which is why i trust him and his work...im not going to swing to an upstart and start singing his praises just because he tunes evo's and other imports...those tuners are a dime a dozen...there are only a handful of mini tuners so consistency and quality are key
Then have your skepticism... no one is stopping you from that... just watch out how hard you push it... skepticism has the ability to be shown another way... criticism is the careful questioning with knowledge and care, but outright attacks are a different realm
Have your skepticism, just remain teachable
This thread is mainly for people who have a Mynes Tune... there are plenty of other threads out there... Ask yourself if you are posting in here because you want to learn, or you want to bash...
Have your skepticism, just remain teachable This thread is mainly for people who have a Mynes Tune... there are plenty of other threads out there... Ask yourself if you are posting in here because you want to learn, or you want to bash...
Mynes are good people and have a very knowledgeable tuner.
If you are happy with RMW then there is no need to shop around though right?
im going to continue to be skeptical until i see a consistant body of work...i know jan's products work and i know he has an impressive resume and tuning ability...which is why i trust him and his work...im not going to swing to an upstart and start singing his praises just because he tunes evo's and other imports...those tuners are a dime a dozen...there are only a handful of mini tuners so consistency and quality are key
Come out to the tune party in Orlando if it happens. NOT ANOTHER DEBATE ON DYNO NUMBERS?!?!?
before any of us make broad statements pertaining to AVERAGE NUMBERS, we need look at the data set - type of dynamometer, corrections, locations, etc. I have been tuning MINIs on chassis dynos since 2002 and can only remember a couple of M45 MINIs with stock compression and displacement that have made more than 250WHP, none over 260WHP. But that doesn't mean they don't exist.
Correct me if I'm wrong, I believe your MINI was tuned at Church's facility on a Dynapack and made 215.7 hp. Shawn Church correctly states that vehicles tuned at his facility make XXX amount of horsepower at the HUBS, not the WHEELS. --- My next statement only pertains to the direct comparison of vehicles tuned on Church's Dynapack compared to our Mustang Dyno.--- If you were to bring your 215.7 Hub HP MINI to our facility, you would be lucky to break 190 Wheel HP. Does that mean your MINI was not professional tuned? NO. Does that mean something is wrong with Church's Dynapack or our Mustang Dyno? NO. Does that mean your MINI now runs slower and no longer performs according to your expectations? that depends - I have seen people react to their dyno numbers and tell me they perceive a difference, whether faster or slower. BTW, it's a know fact that racers perform better when you tell them they make more HP.
The point is, your MINI is the same, the only thing that is "hurt" is your ego and hopefully you will think twice before making statements like "...thats kinda weak.." "....you should be pulling..." and ".....on average the numbers are..."
All our MINIs are unique and the only people we need to impress are ourselves.
before any of us make broad statements pertaining to AVERAGE NUMBERS, we need look at the data set - type of dynamometer, corrections, locations, etc. I have been tuning MINIs on chassis dynos since 2002 and can only remember a couple of M45 MINIs with stock compression and displacement that have made more than 250WHP, none over 260WHP. But that doesn't mean they don't exist.
Correct me if I'm wrong, I believe your MINI was tuned at Church's facility on a Dynapack and made 215.7 hp. Shawn Church correctly states that vehicles tuned at his facility make XXX amount of horsepower at the HUBS, not the WHEELS. --- My next statement only pertains to the direct comparison of vehicles tuned on Church's Dynapack compared to our Mustang Dyno.--- If you were to bring your 215.7 Hub HP MINI to our facility, you would be lucky to break 190 Wheel HP. Does that mean your MINI was not professional tuned? NO. Does that mean something is wrong with Church's Dynapack or our Mustang Dyno? NO. Does that mean your MINI now runs slower and no longer performs according to your expectations? that depends - I have seen people react to their dyno numbers and tell me they perceive a difference, whether faster or slower. BTW, it's a know fact that racers perform better when you tell them they make more HP.
The point is, your MINI is the same, the only thing that is "hurt" is your ego and hopefully you will think twice before making statements like "...thats kinda weak.." "....you should be pulling..." and ".....on average the numbers are..."
All our MINIs are unique and the only people we need to impress are ourselves.
Look in his sig Hubie. He's from Florida not SoCal.
Longboard
yea i was in san diego....the install was done at minicorsa and jan did the tuning at churchs...
lol in fact LB if i remember u posted in the thread i put up about my numbers and i suggested if i remember a RMW owners club run lol
lol in fact LB if i remember u posted in the thread i put up about my numbers and i suggested if i remember a RMW owners club run lol



