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Drivetrain RMW's "Guess what's in the box?"

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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 08:17 PM
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Nice looking stuff Jan!

So PM me with how your schedule looks and what not...
 
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Old Mar 24, 2009 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Revolution Mini Works
3-2-1 till someone else claims they designed it

I drew it up and Gary made it happen in the tiny space provided

I didn't design this with 3 laps in mind... it's made to run all day long on the track
Ummm, call the patent office. Just my suggestion. Anyway, that set up is so very nice.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 12:27 AM
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Great job as usual, Jan!
 
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 01:18 AM
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That is beautiful, Jan. Totally different look under the hood. Now what are you going to do with all the extra space...
 
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 03:33 AM
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That is dead set a work of pure genius!!! Top work Jan, can't wait to see what this track burning monster will put down!!!
 
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 04:42 AM
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@ LB
Thanks for posting these pictures. Now i start to understand how the components connect together and what the direction of the airflow will be.

@Jan
I suspect the "bend" in the W2A intake manifold will get very hot, right?
 
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 05:43 AM
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@ LB
Thanks for posting these pictures. Now i start to understand how the components connect together and what the direction of the airflow will be.

@Jan
I suspect the "bend" in the W2A intake manifold will get very hot, right?

that and the hat will be the 2 hottest spots
that core is 3.5" thick x 4" wide and 12" long........good for 600hp

I don't mind some pressure drop as this blower has plenty to spare

I have methanol sprayers mounted to make sure the engine never gets hot air....EVER
 
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 07:19 AM
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Something I can't afford?
 
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 07:26 AM
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It's still fun to look at though so smile!
 
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 07:27 AM
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are those pics a prototype? those welds are not aesthetically pleasing
 
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 07:30 AM
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are those pics a prototype? those welds are not aesthetically pleasing

YES it's a prototype

This wasn't made for show and shine... it was made for go go go
 
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 07:31 AM
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I'm just used to the fishscales on a nice aluminum frame
 
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Revolution Mini Works
that and the hat will be the 2 hottest spots
that core is 3.5" thick x 4" wide and 12" long........good for 600hp

I don't mind some pressure drop as this blower has plenty to spare

I have methanol sprayers mounted to make sure the engine never gets hot air....EVER
'scuse me while I go change pants now.

Better than ****.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 07:33 AM
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 08:33 AM
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I remember Jan trying to explain this design. He was in my office using my white board to sketch it out. After looking at his drawing I thought it was some form of a sea creature . Keep the crayons away from Jan .

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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 08:37 AM
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WE CAN'T DO THAT. No crayons, no new products. Then what would you do.
 
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Longboard Mini
I remember Jan trying to explain this design. He was in my office using my white board to sketch it out. After looking at his drawing I thought it was some form of a sea creature . Keep the crayons away from Jan .

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my artistic skills don't match what my mind sees

thank God for guys that know how to use 3D cad
 
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Old Mar 25, 2009 | 08:40 AM
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WE CAN'T DO THAT. No crayons, no new products. Then what would you do.

LOL... got 3 hrs sleep last night but got the hex code address for 5 more maps I have been looking for

drivers are being made now for them
 
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 07:15 AM
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@ Jan,
Sorry about this question, but I'm trying to understand/learn/become less of a noob.

So from the bend on the intake, the hot compressed air will be cooled a little and go into the 1st cilinder on the left, a little colder air goes to the 2nd cilinder and so on. So the cilinder on the most right will get the coldest air, right?
I have no idea on air temp differences (probably none) from left to right in the intake manifold, but if there's is any, wouldn't the most right cilinder output the most power and thus show wear/tear first?

Looking forward to some vid's
 
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Bazer
@ Jan,
Sorry about this question, but I'm trying to understand/learn/become less of a noob.

So from the bend on the intake, the hot compressed air will be cooled a little and go into the 1st cilinder on the left, a little colder air goes to the 2nd cilinder and so on. So the cilinder on the most right will get the coldest air, right?
I have no idea on air temp differences (probably none) from left to right in the intake manifold, but if there's is any, wouldn't the most right cilinder output the most power and thus show wear/tear first?

Looking forward to some vid's

Bazer
that is a 3.5" core that it has to go through with 23gal of water being pumped through it. The TVS already has lower temps by design but I plan on pushing this car very hard so I wanted adequate cooling. As I mentioned before there are methanol sprayers underneath the core between the cylinders to "fog" the inlet charge BEFORE it enters the engine. I'm not allowed by to publicly post the numbers from Harrop about the temp data from the supercharger but it is much much lower than the M series with much higher pressure ratios
 
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Revolution Mini Works
Bazer
that is a 3.5" core that it has to go through with 23gal of water being pumped through it. The TVS already has lower temps by design but I plan on pushing this car very hard so I wanted adequate cooling. As I mentioned before there are methanol sprayers underneath the core between the cylinders to "fog" the inlet charge BEFORE it enters the engine. I'm not allowed by to publicly post the numbers from Harrop about the temp data from the supercharger but it is much much lower than the M series with much higher pressure ratios
Lets see if I get this straight from a temp perspective - lower heat producing SC, then w-to-a IC and then water/meth - how will you address the ice formations on the pistons?

23 gallons - where are you storing all this water ?

Looks frick'in awesome
 
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Bahamabart
Lets see if I get this straight from a temp perspective - lower heat producing SC, then w-to-a IC and then water/meth - how will you address the ice formations on the pistons?

23 gallons - where are you storing all this water ?

Looks frick'in awesome

there is not a lot of water, but the core and the exchanger hold most of it, it just PUMPS 23 gal per minute

so it is getting pumped through the system
 
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 07:58 AM
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23 gallons That's like 190lbs.

I think he meant 2.3 gal.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 07:59 AM
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oops I was a little late.

JAN! Really!
 
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Old Mar 26, 2009 | 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Revolution Mini Works
there is not a lot of water, but the core and the exchanger hold most of it, it just PUMPS 23 gal per minute

so it is getting pumped through the system
well that changes things doesn't it! I kept imagining you would have to fill the entire cabin with water and use a snorkel (sticking out the sunroof) in order to get around the track. A combo race car / fish tank if you will.
 
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