hmmmmm......having an M7 supporter(fanboy) do the testing.

 

I'll vouche for Rob (Intense)

let's do this... take up a collection and pay for a track day at Willow Springs
Rob drives down from SLC we put the data logging gear on the car and run it showing how each work. It's a controlled environment and we should get some great data and Rob gets a free track day

I'll even retune Rob's car again for free before the track day

I don't even sell air to air intercoolers so this will be unbiased on my part.

 

Hmmmmmmm... should I have a (hater) like you do the testing..

peter
M7 Tuning
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I'm not trying to be a hardass, but driving around town with probes doesnt accomplish much. If you want run a street test, write a proceedure to simulate a street environment. Anyone else should be able to follow the same proceedure and get the same results.

 

x2. Parameters must be defined prior to testing/logging.

 

your real helpful

 

He's a man of few emoticons. You must be able to read between the lines.

 

now that is hilarious

 

Well I certainly appreciate the "vouching" for me by both vendors
Pretty cool and to be honest, both of these vendors know that I support products from each of them.

For me, I like the idea of a "real world" test for the intercoolers.
How do they perform for people that use their cars as daily drivers? Canyons, freeway, elevation, blasting around town, to and from work etc.

I also like the idea of testing on a track however, for me to do that puts the timeframe out a bit. I was actually planning on going to LaJolla sometime in August or Sept. Whats the drive time from there Jan? A couple hours drive from you? Hell man, If I'm coming to your shop it might be too tempting for me not to get your head installed while I'm there I see what your doing!

 

Well he is from Oregon, guess I should give him a break .

 

If you have the track for a day, I think you should try both race and street programs. I also think you should test two cars, one basic mods, one full bore. Same driver, blind to the test. Test all five or six units.

 

Can you run a real world street test on the track? Can canyons, freeway and normal spirited driving be mimicked on a track?

 

Freeway probably not. The rest of it I don't see a problem. Of course my gut feeling says you are not going to see much difference between all the units at freeway speeds. Can someone confirm the assumption?

 

why not test on a dyno with a good ic fan?

the track/street testing will introduce variables that aren't relevant to the test.

 

I personally want a driving test done. I'm not convinced the dyno tests prove anything either

 

Since when have I hated anything of yours? I don't like your marketing and hyped benefits is all. I don't believe any aftermarket IC is worth the money for the little if any gains.

 

Well if anyone will listen, give me few minutes to type something up. I'm on my phone, it will take a minute.

 

 

Thats what were here talking about man It when you interject your snide remarks and comments. People will tend to be turned off by you. If you have something of value to add or an opinion other than



Share it

....I'm sick of bickering with you, your a grown damn man. Act like it

 

It was a joke a Bart .

Yes - Rotrex
Yes - But the new IC was just to flow more air over stock. They both keep the heat about the same but the stock had better recovery.

Longboard

 

roflmao
about an hrs drive from me

 

This sounds great!!

 

For those of us in So Calif the speed of heat-soak recovery would be very interesting.

 

I guess I will be heading to La Jolla for some good ole MINI action. After all I can't just let my IC go with out me!

 

There is much more to to it than this, but something to start a discussion. Plus I can't type that much on the phone

For the track;

Two cars both start with stock intercoolers send the driver our for 5 laps. Come in and take the other car out. Switch out intercooler at random as he circulates. Continue round robin test until each unit goes twice.

For street;

Same round robin as above:

Start at beginning of front straight, full throttle through the first three gears, simulate getting on freeway. Slow to 70, continue around track to back straight. Stop. Let heat soak for one to one and a half minutes. Hard on gas up to 60, slow to 45, hold until beginning of front straight, repeat 3 times

This is very basic, but gives an idea of getting on a freeway, going a certain distance. Then getting stuck in stop and go traffic. Speeding up again then more cool off. This will see how fast a unit recovers from heat soak before the next full throttle blast.

Please realize I'm throwing this out there for debate. What I'm trying to show is it is possible to make a street simulation loop test that isn't race or dyno.


I think the testing should include stock,GP, M7, both Alta's, andForge if you can get it.
It's very hard to go back and proofread on this phone so please excuse the grammar.