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Old Oct 6, 2008 | 05:04 PM
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Well, several thousand miles later, very and happy and what I wanted from the wrap is temperature control and got it. Now couple that with the new M7 heat shield, heat on the hood is down big time .....

Here is my final setup, WMW turbo wrap and M7 heat shield:


Going to do this same setup on our other mini's !

Kinda funny, used to do this exact same setup on our big block racing engines 20 years ago ..... Just less refined materials
 
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Old Oct 9, 2008 | 08:06 PM
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Well, I read all 6 pages of this thread. There seemed to be a ton of discussion about longer life, better performance, etc, etc....

Am I the only one who doesn't care about that, the ONLY reason I want to install the wrap is to save my stupid hood scoop.

I don't think the difference in life because a turbo is wrapped or not is going to amount to a hill of beans in the long run... I'm sure it's a neglible difference.

Thanks Morbius for the facts though... I'm still going to install the wrap, regardless if it helps or hurts the life of the turbo.

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Old Oct 10, 2008 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by orangecrush
Well, I read all 6 pages of this thread. There seemed to be a ton of discussion about longer life, better performance, etc, etc....

Am I the only one who doesn't care about that, the ONLY reason I want to install the wrap is to save my stupid hood scoop.

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Same reason I installed it...much cooler hood/scoop...
 
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Old Oct 11, 2008 | 09:28 AM
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Same reason I installed it...much cooler hood/scoop...
me two, help prevent hood scoop meltdown, wish I could by somethnig like this to help with my portfolio meltdown thse pas two weeks...
 
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Old Oct 13, 2008 | 10:33 PM
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Picked up my MINI last weekend and I finally got the time to put my wrap on this weekend. I don't have one of those IR sensors, but I can't tell a difference between my hood temps with or without the wrap. I just hope it's enough to keep my scoop from melting. I guess time will tell. I've got the M7 shield on order and the CF Vortex scoop is on backorder, so hopefully those will come in soon and will do the rest of the cooling. I was hoping the wrap would also keep the cool side of the turbo cooler, but I'm not convinced that is happening either.

Morbius, did you leave the stock shield on with the M7?

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Old Nov 10, 2008 | 09:15 PM
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We have ordered a heat shield from Way, for our Clubman. I was talking to Way before I ordered it, and he mentioned to not completely remove the lower bolts, and just pull the OE shield out of the way to get the wrap on. Anyone tried this?

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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 09:26 PM
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I just did the install last night.
It is still very hot under the bonnet, and there is absolutely no way that you can put your hand on the stock heat shield.

Any advise?

please take a look at the pictures, maybe I did something wrong?
please see pictures here
http://picasaweb.google.com/Zhenya13/R56#



 

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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 09:30 PM
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Trying to do this?

Select "copy image address" or "copy image location" from a right click on the image. Click on the icon that shows a mountain and the sun, then paste the address/location. Viola, forum magic.

 
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 09:33 PM
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Sorry not sure I understand how to put the picture in.
Where do I paste the URL to?
 

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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 09:47 PM
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If you're looking at the image in picasaweb, the URL that is displayed does not link you to the image, but the page.

If you follow the procedure I outlined above, you'll see the image. Remember, you want a *.jpg (for example) at the end of the link for the image to properly display.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2009 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by astrochex
If you're looking at the image in picasaweb, the URL that is displayed does not link you to the image, but the page.

If you follow the procedure I outlined above, you'll see the image. Remember, you want a *.jpg (for example) at the end of the link for the image to properly display.
got it thank you
 
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Old Apr 21, 2009 | 05:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Zhenya13
I just did the install last night.
It is still very hot under the bonnet, and there is absolutely no way that you can put your hand on the stock heat shield.

Any advise?
Yeah, don't put your hand on the heat shield....lol.

Seriously, the wrap wasn't so you could put your hand on the heat shield but at least touch the hood without 3rd degree burns.

Is your hood touchable after a run?

Mark
 
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Old Apr 22, 2009 | 09:35 AM
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Anybody having scoop issues with '09 MINIs?
 
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Old May 29, 2017 | 09:22 AM
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Old thread and I am just getting around to installing on my 2013 R56 JCW. Since all the pictures are gone a couple questions:

Assume the wrap goes under the linkage at the bottom? Not sure where the split on the bottom of the wrap is supposed to go?

What is the best way to wire the shield on?
 
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Old May 29, 2017 | 09:55 AM
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The installation is pretty straight forward and nearly impossible to mess up. Lace it on like a shoe, with the opening on the bottom, pulled tight. Yes, the linkage goes on the outside of the wrap. Be sure that the wrap doesn't touch the linkage.
 
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Old May 29, 2017 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by DneprDave
The installation is pretty straight forward and nearly impossible to mess up. Lace it on like a shoe, with the opening on the bottom, pulled tight. Yes, the linkage goes on the outside of the wrap. Be sure that the wrap doesn't touch the linkage.
I bought a WMW turbo shield and plan on putting the factory shield on top. Would that still require lacing the wire ties. It seems to me it would just sit there sandwiched between the turbo and the metal shield.
 
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Old May 29, 2017 | 12:27 PM
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If you don't lace it on tight, you will have a problem getting the factory heat shield to fit over the wrap. It really isn't difficult, don't take shortcuts.

The hardest part of installing it, for me, was putting the bolts back on the front of the heat shield, I couldn't get my hand down there, my wife got them started for me.
 
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Old May 29, 2017 | 01:31 PM
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Thanks! What is the easiest way to lace? Do I need safety wire pliers that twist the wire?




QUOTE=DneprDave;4304641]The installation is pretty straight forward and nearly impossible to mess up. Lace it on like a shoe, with the opening on the bottom, pulled tight. Yes, the linkage goes on the outside of the wrap. Be sure that the wrap doesn't touch the linkage.[/QUOTE]
 
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Old May 29, 2017 | 02:57 PM
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Thanks.
 
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Old May 29, 2017 | 03:37 PM
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I just went back and forth between the attached hooks n the insulation until the wire that came with the wrap was used up, then I took a few turns around the last hook to secure it.
 
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Old May 29, 2017 | 03:49 PM
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I have the turbo and manifold out. I'm thinking it might be worth trying to wrap before putting the whole unit in. Does the wrap interfere with attachment of manifold nuts.
 
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Old May 29, 2017 | 05:37 PM
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I would say wrapping the turbo would trap heat cooking the bearings after shut down in lieu of allowing the heat to escape naturally and cool. Is there a reason for wrapping it ?
 
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Old May 29, 2017 | 06:13 PM
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I have it on there good. Looks like WMW has gone away from the shiny silver outer coating and it now comes just darker insulation.
 
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Old May 29, 2017 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Eurothrasher
I would say wrapping the turbo would trap heat cooking the bearings after shut down in lieu of allowing the heat to escape naturally and cool. Is there a reason for wrapping it ?
Turbo efficiency is increased by retaining heat. Rapid heat changes are worse for a turbo so retaining the heat is not a problem for the bearings. The turbo does have both oil and coolant running through it as well.
 
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Old May 29, 2017 | 06:48 PM
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I remember the days when Turbo SAAB's had no cooling cycles for their's. Tubo's were being replaced as often as a next oil change. ( cooked bearings )

IMO wrapping the Turbo is for race cars with huge pocket books. While increasing performance, adding wrap alters the heat dissipation parameters that were pre-determined for the development of the auxiliary cooling pump and timer.

That said, after wrapping it, to keep all things equal, one would then have to extend the time the aux pump runs after engine shut down.....

GL!
 
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