so when's the kit gunna be for sale???

 

They each have their merits. While the turbo only route will eventually provide the highest level of PEAK HP, the Rotrex is going to have a much more "Streetable" curve.

Did you see where this car is making power? It's all in the upper (4000+ rpm's) power band. Great for the track, or if you drive around in 3rd gear all day, but on the street, having 75 HP until 4k RPM's is not only dangerous, but boring.

I don't think the goal of either of these kits is to pass CA Smog (Though it'd be pretty hard to tell what's done to the car with the rotrex, it looks basically stock).

Most of us have figured out by now how to get around issues with smogging our cars. The law's are complicated, but here's a posting directly from the CA DMV Site regarding smogging your car:

Cars Six Years Old and Newer

If your vehicle is six years old or newer, you will be charged an annual smog abatement fee when you register your vehicle, rather than being required to provide smog certification.

Exceptions
The six-year-or-newer rule doesn't apply to nonresident and custom-built cars made since 1976. Those vehicles require smog certification. If you have a custom or specially constructed car, however, you might need a different type of smog certification.

Title Transfer and Smog Requirements

When you sell a vehicle that is four or fewer model years old, a smog certificate will not be required in order to transfer the title. The buyer will pay a smog transfer fee of $8. If the vehicle sold is more than four model years old, the seller must provide evidence of a current smog certification except in any of the following situations:

The vehicle transfer occurs between a spouse, sibling, child, parent, grandparent, or grandchild.
The vehicle was registered and biennial smog certification was submitted to the DMV within 90 days before the date the title transfer took place. A vehicle inspection report may be required for proof of certification.

So I don't have to worry about smogging my car until 2012, and if I decide to sell it, I don't have to worry about that until 2010.

Even if either of those dates passes, like I said, it's NOT that hard to get your car to pass smog . Jan's 2.0 Stroker kit passed with flying colors!

 

Anything is for sale if you have enough money .

 

I understand that completely And you guy's and maybe gal's are doing an awesome job . Theses cars you are putting together are SWEET! But that being said, I don't see how this is going to effect me, a middle aged old guy, that just wants to know the best path to follow in modding my car. A car that I want drivable, smooth and with more power and legal. I have been told that 230-250 whp is the most optimum power range for a daily street driven car. I use my car every day to get to work. This thread is more fantasy than real life, which is cool, we need to dream . So i'm now rambling so i'll shut up.

 

rustyboy, thanks for the info. But that still means I will need to smog my car next year .

 

Just get a head and tune and you are done. Leave the stock IC and stock air box and be happy.

It really isn't that hard any more to get to 230.

I'm lucky enough to have the funds to drive my hobby. I hooked up with the right guy at the right time (man that sounds bad).

Now that Mega and RMW are working together it means projects like mine and others will all benefit. None of these projects are financial wins for the Manufacturer because there just isn't enough guys willing to take it that far. But we are lucky that guys like Jan and Mr. H are and we/you will all benefit in the form of trickle down technologies. I wish I could tell you what they are trying in my car now because it is really cool. I would have never thought to try this.

How long ago was 200WHP a big deal?

Longboard

 

just for clarification, this is comparison of turbo only dyno vs. stroker with stk pulley and danny's monster. really apples to oranges, but gives you an indication of the different stages of components and range of power.







at 3000 rpm whp/tq

danny 100/175
stroker 120/205
turbo 80/140

at 4000 rpm

danny 148/192
stroker 162/212
turbo 150/190

at 5000 rpm

danny 182/192
stroker 208/215
turbo 250/263

 

Different strokes for different folks.

It all depends on what you want from your car. I for one love the options.

Mr. H? How did that little PWR cooler do on the R50??

Longboard

 

EXACTLY
WE WILL BE ABLE TO PROVIDE AN OPTION FOR ANYONE.

NOW IMAGINE TURBO ON A STROKER.......

SURPRISINGLY, WORKED GREAT! NEVER LIKED WATER/AIR DUE TO ADDED COMPLEXITY, BUT THE "MINI" BARREL FIT GREAT, REAL COMPACT, AND CAN SUPPORT 250WHP, MAYBE 300WHP INTERMITTENT. SETUP CAN WORK ON A COOPER S AS WELL.

 

I know it's in here somwhere, but what does Danny's car have in it for power?

 

Laminova W2A IC
RMW "Jesus" head
RMW Full Exhaust (With header)
19% Pulley
Schrik Cam (Doesn't really do anything)
K&N Typhoon
RMW Tune
Forged Pistons (Safety not power)

 

wrong! it's a weight-savings measure (your wallet is lighter)

 

I posted a response in another thread with some information on how to "Attain" that level of HP. I was sort of alluding to what Danny has in his car.

Here it is

 

This is true. We should take a lesson from BMW and the CSL. No amount of weight is insignifigant! (They saved several grams on the car by making the shift boot out of microfiber instead of leather) .

 

That's my cup of tea

 

just to clarify the latest numbers for the stroker are this


2400rpm tq =190ft lbs
2400rpm hp =86whp

3000rpm=215 ft lbs of torque
3000rpm =124whp

4000rpm=229 tq
4000rpm=174whp

5000rpm =230tq
5000rpm =220whp

6000rpm=216tq
6000rpm=247whp

7000rpm=195tq
7000rpm=260whp

all this power on stock air box
stock throttle body
stock intake manifold
stock intercooler

 

I want to see the 2.OL and the Rotrex. It would be amazing.

If I could only blow my motor up some how .

Longboard

 

this sounds a little scary ............. cool scary!

 

Yeah- a group of vendors that live up to their words and actually work together. That's kinda strange around here, come to think .

Hell, I'm proud to say that you're my boys .

 

Awwww S*** just go for it...no need to blow it up, with having unpossible components it will never blow up...just need to scratch another itch

 

the person who told you that is a fool and should be shot... this is the #1 reason Dom and I made the video we did... OPTIMUM FOR WHO??!!! please... please..... PLEAAAASE! stop the generalization.

 

Love that video Tuls...you should post it again

---its the one with you and the yellow S...right?

 

yep... the Yellow MINI and the UNPOSSIBLE MINI

she's still my daily.... I need to make a new video.... but I have no video camera right now...

 

You would think longboard would have a wife to stop him spending money on all these toys.
I cant imagine what else he has in his garage that he dosent talk about....

 

Let Danny drive it at the track .