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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 06:22 PM
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Let me guess. From a boat engine, maybe a Burmeister and Wain?

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can I add a BOV?
You can use the Really F'in Big RFL.
 
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 06:26 PM
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So when do I get to see the GT42R on a MINI?
 
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 06:32 PM
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prolly in about 5 yrs when the MINI world catches up with the Import world in terms of mod philosophy
 
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 06:41 PM
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prolly in about 5 yrs when the MINI world catches up with the Import world in terms of mod philosophy
LOL
 
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 06:47 PM
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you might need a second Tritec just to spool a GT42. Or, some naws on the hot side

anti-lag
 

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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MEGAmini
how about a dyno graph first?!?!

Congrats on the single turbo setup! Nice peak figures.

I'm assuming that's on a stock long-block? I'd expect a smaller turbo or better spool-up tuning for the real-world; a 4500 RPM boost threshold is not the best with a GT2860RS on there; it should be more like 3700 RPM...but I'm sure you know that

Again, congrats; I look forward to seeing more details, like what you're doing for engine management.
Cheers,
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 09:23 PM
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you might need a second Tritec just to spool a GT42. Or, some naws on the hot side
anti-lag
Hot Damn! Sounds like fireworks!
 
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 09:38 PM
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Unpossible!
 
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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by PGT
you might need a second Tritec just to spool a GT42. Or, some naws on the hot side

anti-lag
Yay! 96 HP until 5k RPM's .

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Just realized what you meant by "Anti-Lag"... funny that it still seems like it's bogging down a lot at lower RPM's.
 

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Old Apr 7, 2008 | 10:21 PM
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ha ha Ryan... the other thing is, who drives in 3rd from 2k... LOL..also let's look at the HP/TQ numbers from 3700 to 4500... uhh yeah... SC cars would be so lucky

as for engine managment... correct me if I am wrong gents.... but it's the factory ecu... with the tuning of RMW (jan)... you know where he copy pastes other peoples tunes.... the other people who have tuned cars like this... wait what?

Originally Posted by Ryephile
Congrats on the single turbo setup! Nice peak figures.

I'm assuming that's on a stock long-block? I'd expect a smaller turbo or better spool-up tuning for the real-world; a 4500 RPM boost threshold is not the best with a GT2860RS on there; it should be more like 3700 RPM...but I'm sure you know that

Again, congrats; I look forward to seeing more details, like what you're doing for engine management.
Cheers,
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 12:05 AM
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So when do I get to see the GT42R on a MINI?
well RMW has already got a GT35r to work pretty well in a MINI. some of the import guys (well in the EVO world anyway) are running GT42r's on 2.0ltr engines. you need to rev them to 10K to make them really worth while though. :(

however something like a GT40R would offer mind blowing power but spool sooner. also it would be intresting to see how a GT30/35R & GT35/40R would work on RMW 2.0 ltr engines.

the major problem with turbo like this is their size. from what i have heard RMW had to go for a side mount turbo setup to get it to fit. this menas lots more mods ontop of the already big list.

so are their any answers??? well yes they maybe. a company in the UK called RC Developments is working on a twin/sequential turob system for the Evo. this is said to offer stock spool but still make 600BHP! details are VERY scares at the moment but when its released someone like RMW might want to have a look and see how it works! it could be very intresting in a mini!

but you will still have fitment issues. sooo how about the second, bigger turbo being slung out the back??? it works for the V8 guys, and with the above Twin turbo stuff could work on the MINI. also i have heard that RMW might have some ideas up their sleaves!!!

anyway back to topic! lol great car and love the loke of the kit. nice and simple. just need someone to start selling them as complete kits now!!!!!!!!!

Cheers for reading all this CR*P! lol

Chris.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 04:08 AM
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Originally Posted by rustyboy155
Yay! 96 HP until 5k RPM's .

Edit:
Just realized what you meant by "Anti-Lag"... funny that it still seems like it's bogging down a lot at lower RPM's.
the car wouldn't be able to do the Scandanavian Flick like that if it was bogging.

still....anti-lag is murder on a motor. it's effective, but you'll be rebuilding often.

on the EJ257 Suby motors....GT35 is the 'big-boy' for street. I can't imagine using much more than a GT32 on the Tritec unless you've done the stroker kit.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 06:16 AM
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After a few hundred miles a pretty crazy anti-lag setup like that would make the motor hold up and flag saying CHECK PLEASE to the nearest pit crew.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Tüls
ha ha Ryan... the other thing is, who drives in 3rd from 2k... LOL..also let's look at the HP/TQ numbers from 3700 to 4500... uhh yeah... SC cars would be so lucky

as for engine managment... correct me if I am wrong gents.... but it's the factory ecu... with the tuning of RMW (jan)... you know where he copy pastes other peoples tunes.... the other people who have tuned cars like this... wait what?
LOL
there is more in this car and even faster spool times as I only got about 90 min with it
 
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 07:56 AM
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Wow, can't wait to see how this finishes out
 
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by PGT
you might need a second Tritec just to spool a GT42. Or, some naws on the hot side

anti-lag

a little NOS won't hurt a 35R


 
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 11:44 AM
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define 'a little' that's like a 300 shot right?
 
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryephile
Congrats on the single turbo setup! Nice peak figures.

I'm assuming that's on a stock long-block? I'd expect a smaller turbo or better spool-up tuning for the real-world; a 4500 RPM boost threshold is not the best with a GT2860RS on there; it should be more like 3700 RPM...but I'm sure you know that

Again, congrats; I look forward to seeing more details, like what you're doing for engine management.
Cheers,
Ryan

Thanks Ryan glad you appreciate the work.

I built the block - long story, but the customer previously endured a lot of grief so he wanted to make sure the bottom end was bulletproof -custom JE pistons that I designed and Carillo rods.
The proper turbo sizing for a 300whp streetable MINI is the GT2560R, but I wanted to put something on that could "push" the internals a bit. Jan and I will be working on engine management to optimize power and driveability. Development takes time, and he did a tremendous job tuning the factory ecu with the limited amount of dyon time. I prefer more control and will be working on stand alone management. PM me for details and more discussion since I believe you have looked into this solution already.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by PGT
define 'a little' that's like a 300 shot right?
LOL 300 shot??!! that would be like 900 WHP! YES!
 
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 01:15 PM
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LOL 300 shot??!! that would be like 900 WHP! YES!
but that be unpossible and undriveable....
 
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 02:09 PM
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LOL 300 shot??!! that would be like 900 WHP! YES!
my bad....thought el diablito did 400 no squeeze and 700 on the bottle
 
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 02:20 PM
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With all this Turbo talk I thought I would show Jans first MINI. Twin charge.

See how long before Jan post's .

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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Longboard Mini
With all this Turbo talk I thought I would show Jans first MINI. Twin charge.

See how long before Jan post's .

Longboard


that was a long, long time ago........such fond memories. that was the second one i built and we sure put down some incredible numbers back then.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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I new you would like that pick.

Yes, the numbers you guys put down waaay back then were amazing. Most don't realize of remember.

LB
 
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 03:00 PM
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I remember the first time I saw the silver E-Shift Mini that H brought to the dyno day in Mesa..good times!.....then the modding bug hit me....

 
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