Drivetrain Noob Brake Question
Noob Brake Question
Hello NAMMers...I am planning on upgrading my rotors, brake lines, and brake fluid sometime in the next few months. I am just lacking any kind of knowledge regarding brakes, so I have a few basic questions:
1) If I keep my JCW brake kit, do I have to continue to use rotors the same size as my current ones? Or can they be larger in diameter?
2) If I keep my JCW brake it, can anyone recommend a top of the line rotor to get? If not, I will just get the JCW slotted/drilled rotors. I do prefer a little bling and do not do enough stressful braking to avoid getting drilled rotors.
3) How come Mini doesn't make drilled and slotted JCW rotors for the back? Any other manufacturers do that? Or is it not worth it?
4) If I did not change the rotors, but just changed the brakelines to stainless steel (more for show) and switched to ATE Super Blue Racing fluid, what differences would I notice if anything?
5) How many hours would changing out rotors, brake lines, and fluid take at a shop?
Thanks!
1) If I keep my JCW brake kit, do I have to continue to use rotors the same size as my current ones? Or can they be larger in diameter?
2) If I keep my JCW brake it, can anyone recommend a top of the line rotor to get? If not, I will just get the JCW slotted/drilled rotors. I do prefer a little bling and do not do enough stressful braking to avoid getting drilled rotors.
3) How come Mini doesn't make drilled and slotted JCW rotors for the back? Any other manufacturers do that? Or is it not worth it?
4) If I did not change the rotors, but just changed the brakelines to stainless steel (more for show) and switched to ATE Super Blue Racing fluid, what differences would I notice if anything?
5) How many hours would changing out rotors, brake lines, and fluid take at a shop?
Thanks!
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Hello NAMMers...I am planning on upgrading my rotors, brake lines, and brake fluid sometime in the next few months. I am just lacking any kind of knowledge regarding brakes, so I have a few basic questions:
1) If I keep my JCW brake kit, do I have to continue to use rotors the same size as my current ones? Or can they be larger in diameter?
2) If I keep my JCW brake it, can anyone recommend a top of the line rotor to get? If not, I will just get the JCW slotted/drilled rotors. I do prefer a little bling and do not do enough stressful braking to avoid getting drilled rotors.
3) How come Mini doesn't make drilled and slotted JCW rotors for the back? Any other manufacturers do that? Or is it not worth it?
4) If I did not change the rotors, but just changed the brakelines to stainless steel (more for show) and switched to ATE Super Blue Racing fluid, what differences would I notice if anything?
5) How many hours would changing out rotors, brake lines, and fluid take at a shop?
Thanks!
1) If I keep my JCW brake kit, do I have to continue to use rotors the same size as my current ones? Or can they be larger in diameter?
2) If I keep my JCW brake it, can anyone recommend a top of the line rotor to get? If not, I will just get the JCW slotted/drilled rotors. I do prefer a little bling and do not do enough stressful braking to avoid getting drilled rotors.
3) How come Mini doesn't make drilled and slotted JCW rotors for the back? Any other manufacturers do that? Or is it not worth it?
4) If I did not change the rotors, but just changed the brakelines to stainless steel (more for show) and switched to ATE Super Blue Racing fluid, what differences would I notice if anything?
5) How many hours would changing out rotors, brake lines, and fluid take at a shop?
Thanks!
Jack
change the brakelines for show? can you even see them? 
we put Stoptechs on in 2 hours, including bleeding. There's no reason a shop should charge you more than two hours for pads, rotors lines and bleeding the system.
Unless you are tracking the car, none of the things you mention matter.
as for options for the JCW kit, there aren't many. Ken @ K&S is the man to talk to (brakeguru on NAM). He was working on some Hawk pads for the JCW kit....HP+. Great bite but at the expense of dust. Also.....TCE....both Todd or Ken know their ****
there's no benefit to drilled rotors except looks. the 'upgrade' is to a 2pc rotor which is a) lighter and b) able to handle more heat (track work etc). dba is a good choice here, but no JCW fitment that I'm aware of yet. Be prepared to pay...$800+ for 2pc rotor pairs.

we put Stoptechs on in 2 hours, including bleeding. There's no reason a shop should charge you more than two hours for pads, rotors lines and bleeding the system.
Unless you are tracking the car, none of the things you mention matter.
as for options for the JCW kit, there aren't many. Ken @ K&S is the man to talk to (brakeguru on NAM). He was working on some Hawk pads for the JCW kit....HP+. Great bite but at the expense of dust. Also.....TCE....both Todd or Ken know their ****
there's no benefit to drilled rotors except looks. the 'upgrade' is to a 2pc rotor which is a) lighter and b) able to handle more heat (track work etc). dba is a good choice here, but no JCW fitment that I'm aware of yet. Be prepared to pay...$800+ for 2pc rotor pairs.
I've already blown alot of money, on suspension and ECU so, brakes are the next thing. Maybe in the long term I will do more with exhaust, but not right now.

i have the r56 witch has the old jcw brakes on it. i find that they worked ok but when i put carbotech pads (auto x compound) on them it real made them work lods better. as for the the lines/fluid it does not take long it should not take over an hour for a shade tree guy.
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Hello NAMMers...I am planning on upgrading my rotors, brake lines, and brake fluid sometime in the next few months. I am just lacking any kind of knowledge regarding brakes, so I have a few basic questions:
1) If I keep my JCW brake kit, do I have to continue to use rotors the same size as my current ones? Or can they be larger in diameter?
2) If I keep my JCW brake it, can anyone recommend a top of the line rotor to get? If not, I will just get the JCW slotted/drilled rotors. I do prefer a little bling and do not do enough stressful braking to avoid getting drilled rotors.
3) How come Mini doesn't make drilled and slotted JCW rotors for the back? Any other manufacturers do that? Or is it not worth it?
4) If I did not change the rotors, but just changed the brakelines to stainless steel (more for show) and switched to ATE Super Blue Racing fluid, what differences would I notice if anything?
5) How many hours would changing out rotors, brake lines, and fluid take at a shop?
Thanks!
1) If I keep my JCW brake kit, do I have to continue to use rotors the same size as my current ones? Or can they be larger in diameter?
2) If I keep my JCW brake it, can anyone recommend a top of the line rotor to get? If not, I will just get the JCW slotted/drilled rotors. I do prefer a little bling and do not do enough stressful braking to avoid getting drilled rotors.
3) How come Mini doesn't make drilled and slotted JCW rotors for the back? Any other manufacturers do that? Or is it not worth it?
4) If I did not change the rotors, but just changed the brakelines to stainless steel (more for show) and switched to ATE Super Blue Racing fluid, what differences would I notice if anything?
5) How many hours would changing out rotors, brake lines, and fluid take at a shop?
Thanks!
from http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=accessoryPart5&siteid=214217&cata logid=3751&categoryID=75816 .2) There is Brembo JCW rotor (but it's hard to find).
3) For the back rotor brake it dosen't worth.
thanks for the input guys....the time info is good to know so I don't get raped by any installers. (no pot-stirring comments here PGT LOL!)
Um....PGT, have you changed anything else with your JCW brakes? Just fluids perhaps? I'll prol just shell out the couple hundred bucks just to get the rotor bling even though I might only track/auto-x it a few times a year.
Anybody know how much the Brembo rotors fit for JCW cost?
Oh and thanks for the info on the Carbotech...know of a good place to get those?
Um....PGT, have you changed anything else with your JCW brakes? Just fluids perhaps? I'll prol just shell out the couple hundred bucks just to get the rotor bling even though I might only track/auto-x it a few times a year.
Anybody know how much the Brembo rotors fit for JCW cost?
Oh and thanks for the info on the Carbotech...know of a good place to get those?
Last edited by PlayPlay; Feb 24, 2008 at 08:57 PM.
call them and talk to jeanne puskar she can help you with what you need, phone number is 877-899-5024 web is ctbrakes.com. tell them you learned about them on nam.
i would recommend the auto x pad because they work well for street as well as the auto x/track day
i would recommend the auto x pad because they work well for street as well as the auto x/track day
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