Well...after my little incident my daddy said I won't be around much more for an undetermined amount of time. So, take care.

 

is he going to kill you?

 

Geeze... I bet he's somehow blaming the club (or NAM, or both) for Jeremy's driving. Not entirely fair, but it seems that parents these days just looooooove to find fault in others.

 

I don't think he is blaming NAM/DCMM. During his rant tonight he kept coming back to "how stupid can you be." So he used "you" over a dozen times, and only mentioned DCMM once to say bye-bye for awhile. And to Kaite, no he's not going to kill me, if he touches me, I will have no problem kicking his ****. We ALMOST got into it back in May.

 

so, you can't post here because you got some tickets? geezz...

 

No computer = no posting

 

Being a parent of a teenager, I don't blame him, I would pull those keys so fast it would make your head spin.

 

I think once your dad has cooled down a bit he will help you fight those bogus tickets.

Just be lucky he didn't get you for more bs like a tail light, windsheild crack, tires, etc...

 

 

That's hilarious

 

I've never met Jeremy or his parents but a couple of things seem pretty obvious to me from his history of posts on NAM.

1. Jeremy is not shy or retiring and occasionally says things he should think about before speaking but that probably had nothing to do with his tickets. See #3 and #5.
2. His parents seem to be appropriately concerned folks who are concerned with and want to be involved with their son's life.
3. Teenagers are Teenagers.... Insurance companies and law enforcement have over 100 years of statistics showing that the judgement demonstrated by teens is not always appropriate or good.
4. The cost of his mom and dad's insurance is about to go through the ceiling since most companies automatically include the driving records and risk of everyone living in a household over 65 and under 21 in calculating the rates of the head of household regardless of whether the senior/junior drivers even drive the family car(s) or have separate policies. I have great sympathy formy brother who raised three teen drivers, ALL with accidents and tickets!
5. Fact- Cops target teen drivers! Statistics show that slowing them down, keeps them alive and prevents accidents. Cutting them slack and giving them warnings only teaches them that they can get away with it and encourages them to continue developing irresponsibile driving habits.
6. His parents have every right to expect Jeremy to act responsibly to their family and they have the responsibility to teach him to act the same to society. And they should be able to hope we as adults, if we choose to be involved with their son, to support and encourage their actions. Otherwise, they should and will prevent him from participating in our activities. If I had a young adult or minor child and I found out all of his friends were encouraging him to break the law, I'd sure do what ever I could to make he/she understand the ramifications of following bad advice or bad example.
7. Jeremy should follow the advice of his parents! He is a minor! Leave the parenting to his parents. No matter how good our intentions are, it is an issue between Jeremy, his parents and the authorities.
8. I think Jeremy will learn from this and I hope he will be back out to join us in the near future.

 

Hey Feedback, where have you been?

 

As much as you may not want to hear this - your parents love you very much and are doing what they feel is best. After raising two teenagers - I understand both sides.

You live in their house. As pissed as you may be at the moment - this too shall pass.

Donna

 

No longer a minor...

 

My apologies!!! I will edit and correct immediately.

Still hope to see you out motoring soon!

 

You''ll all love this..... I was back in Hawaii for a while. I had U2 tickets so...........

Now I need to find some work to pay for all this frivolous travel!

 

Jeremy, what are you doing online? Do your parents know you are here?

 

I support and encourage any parent to discipline their children wherever it makes sense. My concern was that somehow his parents would associate DCMM or NAM as somehow encouraging wildly dangerous driving habits.

If they ban him from DCMM events or using NAM, the question must be asked - why? Is it because they simply want to punish him, and that is one way of doing so? Or is it because they have developed this sense that we are a bad influence?

My original comment in post #3 was intended to express that exact concern.

 

Jeremy - I too once felt that way. I thought he was the meanest dumbest person on the planet. I was eighteen just like you. By the time I was 24 I was amazed at how much he learned in just six short years.

Sam

 

The reference to DCMM is similar to if a parent saw their child around a certain group of kids. Thinking that we were the influence, which we aren't. We in no way encourage dangerous or illegal driving. We are a club of people enthusiastic about a car and get together to enjoy that enthusiasm together.

 

See my problem was never with my parents i always thought my Mom and Dad were fairly smart people. My problem is and will always be that i think Cops are dumber than dirt.

 

Parents these days? Geez Edge are you twelve?
As a parent of a 17 year old, I don't see a connection with your statement.
I do recognize fault when it is there, that comes with maturity. I then take this much unappreciated experience and try to keep them from repeating those mistakes.
As a teenager, a young adult is responsible for their actions whether they act responsibly or not - it falls to the parent to make certain that the young adult does accept responsibility. You can call it the curse of parenthood if you want, but if the parents don't act then society will and that is typically much, much more painful.

 

No, 31... and I don't appreciate the belittling. And naturally I wasn't referring to ALL parents. However it does seem like a large cross-section of parents in this country today seem very quick to place blame anywhere outside their family for their own kids actions.

THAT is the point I was trying to make. I clarified it a lot further in post #18 - doesn't appear you read that one?

It may or may not apply in this case - I was making a blanket statement. Neither DCMM nor NAM has done anything to encourage Jeremy's poor driving behavior. If they want to take his keys, that I can understand. If they forbid him from using NAM or talking to DCMM members, that I don't understand, unless it is simply meant to be a generic (and temporary) form of punishment, since they know he'll miss it. If they make it permanent and somehow say "I don't want you talking to those people any more", then that is ridiculous.Can you see the connection with my statement now? Again, it may or may not apply to Jeremy's situation, but many (not all) parents today seem to want to find fault elsewhere... and the lawsuit frenzy is one symptom.

 

What? A well reasoned, thoughtful post on NAM? What's this place coming to?

 

Chris, you should see if law enforcement in your area has a ride along program. Spend a night in their shoes (and understand where they're coming from) and it might influence your opinion.

If your comment was just out of frustration that THEY get to tell YOU what to do and you don't have much of a say in it, then nevermind.