why aren't you allowed to sell it? Did you use your own money to buy it? I'm confused...

 

Yes I bought it with my own money, I'm not allowed to sell it because my mom is convinced the only reason I am selling it is because of my tickets. Not the case, but she isn't going to listen or ever think otherwise. If you guys are still looking for one when this whole thing calms down I'll still be looking to off load it.

 

well I've gotta throw my offer out just for backup

 

I don't mind being razzed when it's funny... in this case, claiming immaturity for a statement that was in no way immature... just doesn't fit! I never said "all" parents. A blanket statement of "parents these days" is no different than "kids these days"... if I had said "kids these days", would you have thought I meant ALL kids? Give me a break. You personalized a statement that in no way referred to you specifically!There's nothing to revise! You over-interpreted it.Other people have nothing to do with the conversation, it's irrelevant. What "other people" do may be the same, it may be different, but this conversation is specifically about to a parent/child situation, so that is why I didn't bring "other people" into it. Again, if you took personal offense to what I said, I apologize... but I didn't mean you specifically - it was a blanket "general" statement about our society today, and how many parents seem to redirect blame.Thanks for the backup, wilson.

LOL, this is NAM, after all. One topic spawned another. It's all about parental discipline, responsibility and placement of blame. Funny thing is, Jeremy hasn't seemed to mind (so far).

 

No prob-lemo!

 

Just to point out that he seems to have a lot of time to spend on here and maybe that's why his folks saw it as a just punishment.

 

Don't worry, some of us knew where you where going with that.

 

Then you need to think about your priorities....Being an independent self sufficent adult ought to be your #1 priority. you are a minor until you walk and talk like an adult. The amount of money you are wasting on a virtually brand new car (depreciation even if you actually own it and arent making payments) and insurance for an 18yr old male on the MINI represents your independence or dependence as it is now.

 

I PMed Jeremy and also left him a message, no response. It really pisses me off when people don't respond back..... *(@*(^@#(*^@$*&%@*&#^*(!@)!_) and the horese you rode in on.

 

I responded to you on AIM, and you never responded back to that...

 

For somebody that has been banned from the computer your here a lot.

 

THAT ... is about the saddest thing I have read on NAM (and that is saying a lot). Someday you will regret that ... perhaps your just to inexperienced to understand but someday when he is long since been buried, this utter lack of respect for your parents will .... well everything that goes around, comes around.

I am very sorry for your parents ...

 

for immaturity.

End of Pity Party.

 

When the cats away the mice...

 

Can I ask a question ?

If you own your car outright and.or make the payments on it, where did/does the money come from to do so ?

How do you (at your age) fund these purchases ?

I ask because as a parent I have been through similar traumas recently.

also at 18, I am not sure that you are 'not allowed' to leave home, more that you are going to struggle to bring in sufficient money to do so and still maintain a decent lifestyle.

at 18 I had a mortgage.....

 

I bring in money to pay for my car/insurance by working 35-40 hour weeks, at the same store I've been working at since the day I turned 16. The day I got my tickets I got my 'promotion' I've been working my **** off for the past few months. I used to be more or less a cashier, $8.80 and hour at a grocery store. I am not working night crew, 48 hours a week at $11+ an hour, still working out how much I'll be making.

 

AIM is on my iMac. What about the PM or a phone call? I still think you should sell it.

 

Thats a fair question

Jeremy has responded but I worked almost full-time since I was 15. Bought a car at 16.

 

Chows - I too worked from an early age to buy my first few Bikes and Cars, not to mention funding a motorcycle racing habit. Breaking into the property market at 18 was a good move, buying a ('77) 911sc as a daily driver at 18 was probably a bad one (10K UKP, when my appartment cost me 23K UKP)

However in 1983 when I was 18, I made considerably more than $8/hour in my second and third jobs, let alone my full-time one also working as a mechanic for a motorcycle race team on weekends would net me a of 'under the table' cash and prevent me from blowing it on racing......\

Anyway, from the 40hrs/wk at $8.80 is only $352 / week - possibly less that $1K / month take-home when you consider taxes etc.

Payments on a Cooper @ 18 are probably $300-$400, my 20yo pays $230/month for his in Insurance (Arizona), so you have to think that the numbers would be similar, proably more a MINI is not a cheap car to insure. So maybe you are left with less than $100 / week for gas, mods, eating out etc. I guess too that you needed to use your parents credit when financing the car ?

If you have been doing the job for 2 years, you might have pulled in close to $20K.

The talk of buying a Wii to flip on e-bay ($400 ?) equate to an entire month of 'living money', plus various other purchases would have me calling 'BS', even maybe just a little. If you have a cell phone and a teenage txt'ing habit - there is another $50/month, plus any other toys / clothes / girls.

If your parents have sufficient hold over you to ban you from driving the Mini, I am not so sure that they do not foot at least some of the bills - car payment / gas card / insurance etc ?

Again, I have been going through this with my 20yo son, I know that he cannot afford to live on his own without a lot of my help - he is, however at University so I tend to help a little more.

I am just not so sure that you are being really straight with us

 

Jeremy....

Take it easy... there so much you have to learn... and most of us when thru the same things.. maybe no a speeding ticket but in one way or another we thought the ALL world was against us and we knew all the answers...

I dropped out of college just to make my dad angry.. I was sure I could support myself with my DJ job....but as soon as my MINI (yes my MINI MINOR INNOCENTI) broke down I had to use my dad's AMEX... boy I was back in college in a flash.... It did cost my dad I lot of money tho... he had to pay for my Ph.D

 

I agree with you. I was only pointing out that people do work to pay for ... whatever.

Buy a house a 18 is awesome. excellent move

I too have bought cars I regretted ... a 911 Carrera when I was too young to realize the mistake.

I am 100% with you on this.

 

kekeke

 

Payments on my Cooper are $301.44/mo. for 72 months. And my insurance (currently, will be higher) is $280 and change. That last $100 a week sits in my bank account until christmas, birthdays, car maintence (oil changes), and emergencies (had to replace a tire two weeks ago {$221.97}), etc. I have put one mod into my MINI (K&N Typhoon Intake) and the only reason I did that was because I fount one on ebay for $72 shipped. See later about eating out.

About 20k is correct, my paystub from Nov 9th has a yearly gross of $10374.74.

The Wii was in fact purchased completly to flip, it was easy for me to throw a month of 'living money' into it, because I don't really 'live'. I don't have other toys, I'm not one to keep up with the latest fashion (I wear the same pants I was wearing 3 years ago), and I havn't had a girlfriend for almost a year (nor am I really 'looking').

I havn't had to use my parents to help make a car payment, cover my insurance while I was waiting for a check, or for them to help me fill the tank.

If you have any other questions about my expenses feel free to ask. You stated you don't think I'm being really straight with you, so I'm trying to fill you in as much as possible. (This isn't a smart *** response post, just trying to answer some of your questions.)

 

I will help you flip that Wii by purchasing it since you state that is why you bought it in the first place.

 

if you still dont have one when my parents chill out, its yours