Run flats vs non run flats
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Run flats vs non run flats
I need some help on a tough decision. I am nearing the end of my original tires life having just hit 23,ooo miles. I will need 4 new ones soon. Well here is the delima...I had decided to get non-run flats as the replacement. However, last week my wife's Honda Accord got a flat...while we were on our way to Disney World. Well we got a can of fix-a-flat and pumped it up. Well it all came out of the hole in the tread. Yea we found the non repairable hole. The tire was dead. A quick change to the spare...a trip back home to grab the mini and we took the Mini ti see Mickey.
So here is the delima. I travel for work and 2-3 days a week I go like an hour away from home. Which means that if I ever get a flat it would really stink. I'd have to wait for 2+ hours for the wife to bring a spare. Then limp home on it. I dont really have room in the car cuz of all the boxes I carry.
What do I do?
So here is the delima. I travel for work and 2-3 days a week I go like an hour away from home. Which means that if I ever get a flat it would really stink. I'd have to wait for 2+ hours for the wife to bring a spare. Then limp home on it. I dont really have room in the car cuz of all the boxes I carry.
What do I do?
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I got 3 flats on my run-flats (in 1200 miles) and must admit that the car could still be driven. But after switching to standard tires I haven't gotten a flat at all (in 800 miles). Ran48 recommended using a MINI spare wheel and so I got one in my trunk now--except I haven't got the tire yet.
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when I dumped the runflats, (which ,incidently was the best thing I ever did to the car) I bit the bullet and bought a jack, lug wrench and donut spare (which I keep in one of Robyn's (jerseygirl) spare tire bags directly behind my passenger seat in the rear foot well). I rotate my tires front to back every 5 K. and get reasonably good use out of a set (35k).
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Originally Posted by holdenontoit
when I dumped the runflats, (which ,incidently was the best thing I ever did to the car) I bit the bullet and bought a jack, lug wrench and donut spare (which I keep in one of Robyn's (jerseygirl) spare tire bags directly behind my passenger seat in the rear foot well). I rotate my tires front to back every 5 K. and get reasonably good use out of a set (35k).
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Originally Posted by OldRick
If I'm not mistaken, the three-year roadside assistance program that comes with your US Mini will tow (more likely flatbed) the car to the nearest dealer.
Oh...and the tow to the dealership is totally free.
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wow a good argument for runflats
--Someone on this forum put together a spare donut in the boot of the cooper s. But if you really do travel that much and time is more important to you I'd pick up another set of runflats. So long as you're okay with $600 every 25k miles that is. I wouldn't look at the same tires, but perhaps something better from Tirerack.com.
I'm not too fond of my Pirelli's and as soon as they near their last 5k of wear I'm going back to standard radials and a patch kit with a compressor tire repair kit. I live in Honolulu and our island is barely 40 by 70 miles long so I can get to a dealer or tire repair shop in no time on most days. I'm also looking forward to a softer ride on radial tires too as the run flats brutalize me on Honolulu's pothole central roads. The radials will also cut down on weight which should help my fuel economy. But if I had the extra dosh and shortage of extra time and didn't care about fuel economy and ride comfort I'd get me some high performance run flats to replace my old run flats. Just mho tho.
--pyratio
I'm not too fond of my Pirelli's and as soon as they near their last 5k of wear I'm going back to standard radials and a patch kit with a compressor tire repair kit. I live in Honolulu and our island is barely 40 by 70 miles long so I can get to a dealer or tire repair shop in no time on most days. I'm also looking forward to a softer ride on radial tires too as the run flats brutalize me on Honolulu's pothole central roads. The radials will also cut down on weight which should help my fuel economy. But if I had the extra dosh and shortage of extra time and didn't care about fuel economy and ride comfort I'd get me some high performance run flats to replace my old run flats. Just mho tho.
--pyratio
Originally Posted by ninjamini
I need some help on a tough decision. I am nearing the end of my original tires life having just hit 23,ooo miles. I will need 4 new ones soon. Well here is the delima...I had decided to get non-run flats as the replacement. However, last week my wife's Honda Accord got a flat...while we were on our way to Disney World. Well we got a can of fix-a-flat and pumped it up. Well it all came out of the hole in the tread. Yea we found the non repairable hole. The tire was dead. A quick change to the spare...a trip back home to grab the mini and we took the Mini ti see Mickey.
So here is the delima. I travel for work and 2-3 days a week I go like an hour away from home. Which means that if I ever get a flat it would really stink. I'd have to wait for 2+ hours for the wife to bring a spare. Then limp home on it. I dont really have room in the car cuz of all the boxes I carry.
What do I do?
So here is the delima. I travel for work and 2-3 days a week I go like an hour away from home. Which means that if I ever get a flat it would really stink. I'd have to wait for 2+ hours for the wife to bring a spare. Then limp home on it. I dont really have room in the car cuz of all the boxes I carry.
What do I do?
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Second generation run flats are far more forgiving in sidewall flex than the first generation (biggest complaint) as manufactuers are now using less rubber in the sidewalls, run flats are now nearly as light as their non-run flat counterparts (and getting lighter all the time), and have equivalent grip (sure, you can always find more grip at the expense of mileage). Ultimately, run flats are the future. You'll see more and more as OEM-equipped...just look at the new BMW 3er. Besides, MINI designed the car around run flats. What more do you want? There are also side benefits...having no spare equals more space for engineers to locate components/stuff, saves sprung weight, etc. I'm hoping the third generation run flats will be available by the time mine wear out. I'll definitely buy run flats regardless, but I do hope that manufacturers keep the evolution going. What we need is more competitors in our standard sizes. My Dunlop SP9000 DSST-shod 05 MCS has almost 3,000 miles. Tire wear is dead even, grip is great, and the ride quality is a hell of a lot better than my friends Z-3. I think once I mount Koni FSDs I'll be in heaven.
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On the cost issue, I've found runflats to be pretty darn cheap, if you leverage the secondary market. For my last Cooper, I bought a set of nearly new (200mi) S-lites and Euphorias for $600 and sold my R84s and runflats with 25k for $400. $50 per tire with no mounting/balancing costs is not bad. I'm planning to do the same for my S soon.
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Originally Posted by XAlfa
And if lower-profile=better handling, then why do F1 cars seem to ride on such high-profile tires?
http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=56923&page=1
They get into it.
Paul
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Originally Posted by XAlfa
And if lower-profile=better handling, then why do F1 cars seem to ride on such high-profile tires?
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Originally Posted by XAlfa
On the cost issue, I've found runflats to be pretty darn cheap, if you leverage the secondary market. For my last Cooper, I bought a set of nearly new (200mi) S-lites and Euphorias for $600 and sold my R84s and runflats with 25k for $400. $50 per tire with no mounting/balancing costs is not bad. I'm planning to do the same for my S soon.
You are assuming that one has kept the stock rim size. Not only is finding a 215/35-18 runflat pretty difficult, you are not going to find a set for $600.
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