Big Brake Conundrum
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Big Brake Conundrum
Is there an effective Big Brake Kit that doesn't cost over $2000? I have to replace my brakes and am planning on making the vehicle a track focused vehicle and it won't be my DD soon so I have the luxury of putting it away for a couple months.
Any advice on products used would be most appreciated. Personal experience with certain kits would be awesome.
Any advice on products used would be most appreciated. Personal experience with certain kits would be awesome.
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Is there an effective Big Brake Kit that doesn't cost over $2000? I have to replace my brakes and am planning on making the vehicle a track focused vehicle and it won't be my DD soon so I have the luxury of putting it away for a couple months.
Any advice on products used would be most appreciated. Personal experience with certain kits would be awesome.
Any advice on products used would be most appreciated. Personal experience with certain kits would be awesome.
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$160ea today. I think it was a set..
We keep talking like that we'll have the op back to $2k in no time! lol
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Thanks for sorting it out. pretty happy with the kit overall. Your customer service was much better than Wilwood's as well... and i personally went in there when i lived a few miles from them.
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I got wilwood 11.75 with ss pistons(non booted) for the front from the reviews they will fit under 16 inch rim. So going back to performance with street pads bp-10 which the kit originally came with sucked they were worse than redstuff pads I had on original brakes for r53. So I was thinking I just spent over 1k on brakes that are the same or even worse than original brakes. So if you do think that you will track your car I will get the kit but if youre not stay with original brakes and get redstuff pads. Also if you do get the kit I recommend going with bp-20 pads little more dust but huge improvement... also the kit comes with small spacers that you can go with 12.2 rotors. the replacement rotors run from $35-$100 what ever style you choose which is very nice. and yes the brakes give better pedal feel but what is the point if the braking performance is similar to oem... sorry for being bipolar here.
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16" wheels should be running the larger 12.2" kits to take advantage of the space for more leverage and thermal capacity. As noted both kits are "the same" in that they use the same bracket but a barrel spacers on the stud to raise the caliper on the larger diameter disc.
Disc for that kit are available for very low costs...however anything less than the ULHP32 disc for a potential track use could be somewhat dangerous. These ultra low cost discs are very light, have minimal finish and are not balanced being mainly for street rods. They don't come standard on any factory kit used for true dd street use. And certainly not open track use. Most customers are better served paying the $100 up charge to move to the GT castings which offer are a directional and more durable casting.
BP10 pads are standard for nearly all street kits. (being likened to Hawk HPS) but yes 20s are more aggressive for those who want more bang for the buck. A move to semi metallic E compound would really wake things up. And pad changes are quite simple.
Comparison is hard...depends on what was stock or what was in use before the purchase. An older R53 with small brakes this would be a huge change. A later car or JCW package more of a lateral move. BBKs are however never a promise of shorter stopping distances, that's a big mis understanding often, but about durability- the stopping over and over without fade. But at 11.75 that's not a huge improvement over stock either I agree fully.
I've always felt that you buy first by WHEEL SIZE, then by INTEND OR USE, and finally by BUDGET. For a car with 17s for example running a full 13" kit would be an easy choice and offer a good mix of size, mass, bling and value at about $1000.
Disc for that kit are available for very low costs...however anything less than the ULHP32 disc for a potential track use could be somewhat dangerous. These ultra low cost discs are very light, have minimal finish and are not balanced being mainly for street rods. They don't come standard on any factory kit used for true dd street use. And certainly not open track use. Most customers are better served paying the $100 up charge to move to the GT castings which offer are a directional and more durable casting.
BP10 pads are standard for nearly all street kits. (being likened to Hawk HPS) but yes 20s are more aggressive for those who want more bang for the buck. A move to semi metallic E compound would really wake things up. And pad changes are quite simple.
Comparison is hard...depends on what was stock or what was in use before the purchase. An older R53 with small brakes this would be a huge change. A later car or JCW package more of a lateral move. BBKs are however never a promise of shorter stopping distances, that's a big mis understanding often, but about durability- the stopping over and over without fade. But at 11.75 that's not a huge improvement over stock either I agree fully.
I've always felt that you buy first by WHEEL SIZE, then by INTEND OR USE, and finally by BUDGET. For a car with 17s for example running a full 13" kit would be an easy choice and offer a good mix of size, mass, bling and value at about $1000.
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Stock brakes work great until you get fade,,,, you wont need brake upgrade unless you are driving hard but fade is no fun,,,, so think ahead,, to get more hydraulic force you need a lager master cylinder,,,, brake feel is a whole long story,,,, Pad materials are all different you have to try a few to get what they do
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todd ,just to be clear you're talking about the full 13" kit for around $1000=Plus 3b kit?
coming from an S car with ebc reds/stoptech rotors (294mm?) i'm really not all that impressed by the performance. If getting just the dp6 kit and having to get a decent 316mm rotor will put me up near the 13" kit price that is a no brainer IMO.
other cheapish option- i think b6cool is talking about, is the 4pot dynapro but do you have just a caliper kit for those?
coming from an S car with ebc reds/stoptech rotors (294mm?) i'm really not all that impressed by the performance. If getting just the dp6 kit and having to get a decent 316mm rotor will put me up near the 13" kit price that is a no brainer IMO.
other cheapish option- i think b6cool is talking about, is the 4pot dynapro but do you have just a caliper kit for those?
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todd ,just to be clear you're talking about the full 13" kit for around $1000=Plus 3b kit?
coming from an S car with ebc reds/stoptech rotors (294mm?) i'm really not all that impressed by the performance. If getting just the dp6 kit and having to get a decent 316mm rotor will put me up near the 13" kit price that is a no brainer IMO.
other cheapish option- i think b6cool is talking about, is the 4pot dynapro but do you have just a caliper kit for those?
coming from an S car with ebc reds/stoptech rotors (294mm?) i'm really not all that impressed by the performance. If getting just the dp6 kit and having to get a decent 316mm rotor will put me up near the 13" kit price that is a no brainer IMO.
other cheapish option- i think b6cool is talking about, is the 4pot dynapro but do you have just a caliper kit for those?
There are no four pot caliper kits any longer. I did some years ago for the dinky rotor but the fit it just too tight. And I don't care for the cotter pin dynalite for such uses really.
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