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Bridgestone G 019 Grid vs Yoko AVID ENVigor

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Old 10-09-2010, 04:30 PM
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Bridgestone G 019 Grid vs Yoko AVID ENVigor

Okay, finally whittled my tire decision down to the Bridgestone G 019 Grid and the Yokohama AVID ENVigor H&V after extensive reading on Tire Rack. So everybody out there in NAM land, what's your opinion on either tire and is one better than the other? Any comments/opinions is GREATLY appreciated. Thanks!
 
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Old 10-09-2010, 05:54 PM
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The Grid 019 was on my short list, along with the Envigor, and the DWS Conti.

I eliminated the Conti because of the soft sidewalls. I eliminated the 019s because too many people I talked with told me they were noisy (but great) and I wanted quiet.

I picked the Envigor. I've got about 2K miles on them so far and I'm well pleased.
 
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Old 10-09-2010, 06:30 PM
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I will be getting the Envigor also on the next 60 days. I compared all 3 on tires rack, the DWS do have complaints about soft side walls. Ofthe 2 tires left I'm going with the Envigor tire, from all that I have read, it seems like the better choice for me.
 
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Old 10-09-2010, 06:53 PM
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I agree w/ Herleman. I also had the Grid 019 was on my short list, along with the Envigor, and the DWS Conti. I read the Conti's have soft sidewalls and the Grid 019 were noisy , so I opted for the Envigor's. I bought them in 215/45/17's instead of 205/45/17's so I would get the W series tire, higher speed rating (no rubbing issues with stock suspension). I have had them for 3 months and ~ 3000 miles and love them. Got to be the quietest tire I have ever owned. Love them , Quiet, Great ride, High wear rating (560) and very good handling. What more can you ask for?
 
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Old 10-10-2010, 09:56 AM
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Bought Envigors three months ago and have no regrets-none.
 
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To follow up.

Just to let everyone know I got the AVID ENvigors and I've found the perfect tire for me and my MINI. They seem to be quiet, grippy and excellent in the rain. I would highly reccommend to anybody. I bought 195/55-16s for my X-Lites (V-Spokes) and I'm also so glad I'm finally running on non-run flat tires. They have transformed my MINI and I'll NEVER go back to a run flat tire again.
 
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Old 11-01-2010, 07:37 PM
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Got the ENvigors too in 215/45/17's with NM lowering springs. Love the tires and no rubbing issues.
 
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I got the Yoko ENvigors too in 215/45/17. They run very smooth, can't believe the difference from RFT, its like a new car - runs smooth, as for cornering no noticeable difference. One issue though - when I go over a dip in the road, at speed, I can hear the left rear tire rub a little bit in the edge..I guess I need to be careful near large dips in the road! Tires performed very well in rain and have seen no "hunting" issues on grooved roads.
 
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If you need good winter traction go with Conti DWS. Otherwise, it sounds like the new Yoho envigors are the best choice.
 
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Yokos would be my choice if i could get them in 215/35/18
 
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I have the Envigors. Ultimate dry grip is probably not quite as good as the Bridgestones. But for my driving (normal spirited street use at sane speeds), they're more than adequate.
 
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Curious.... I have Grids on both the MINI and Subaru and I don't hear the noise that everyone is complaining about. Personally, I like them and so does the Mrs.
 
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Curious.... I have Grids on both the MINI and Subaru and I don't hear the noise that everyone is complaining about. Personally, I like them and so does the Mrs.
That's what I hate about tire shopping. Every opinion on every tire is so subjective. I do not have an issue with tire noise on Bridgestones either. From driving cars of friends who have Bridgestones, I am of the opinion that once warmed up, Bridgestones have more grip than the Yoko Envigors. The Envigors, in my opinion, seem to have a better balance of compromises for all driving conditions.
 
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