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Old May 2, 2008 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Minian
I'm not much for red, but you have a good looking car.

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Thanks Minian, I'm not a DS fan either but your "Patriotism" shot looks great. BTW I like your tow hook! You've certainly got the right look going on with your color combo!

Originally Posted by orangecrush
God that's a beautiful car. You guys on here (and gals) have some really great looking cars. The more I look, the more outstanding cars I see.
Thanks much! You need to put somepics of your in your gallery.
 
Old May 2, 2008 | 05:44 PM
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Where is everyone getting there custom MINI, Disney's Cars esque, signatures? Just wondering. I've seen them throughout many posts.
 
Old May 2, 2008 | 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Minian
I see what you mean, but the bigger wider rims change the accuracy of the odometer.
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Minian,

Don't you mean the different size tires change the accuracy of the odometer? You could technically put 20's on the car if the outside diameter of the tire was the same as OEM. (as far as accuracy is concerned)

Semantics....
 
Old May 2, 2008 | 06:01 PM
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Where is everyone getting there custom MINI, Disney's Cars esque, signatures? Just wondering. I've seen them throughout many posts.

Read my sig
 
Old May 3, 2008 | 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by bean
think before hitting the "submit" button. how do bigger, wider rims affect the accuracy of the odometer. clearly, wider rims will make no difference. "bigger" rims will not, by themselves, cause inaccuracy. only when coupled with tires that are taller/shorter than OEM, will odometer/speedometer error occur.

My point exactly Bean! We're not talking about OEM wheels and tires.
No one likes someone who barges in with an insulting comment. If I misspoke I'll except that and learn from it.
Say what you have to say constructively as mature adults do or go play somewhere else.

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Old May 3, 2008 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by orangecrush
Minian,

Don't you mean the different size tires change the accuracy of the odometer? You could technically put 20's on the car if the outside diameter of the tire was the same as OEM. (as far as accuracy is concerned)

Semantics....
OC- Yes you're right. Though dependent on wheel weight and tire side-wall height your ride quality and braking distance will suffer.
Oh! Thanks for correcting me maturely.

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Old May 3, 2008 | 12:18 PM
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Just got these new wheels last week.

 
Old May 3, 2008 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Minian
My point exactly Bean! We're not talking about OEM wheels and tires.
No one likes someone who barges in with an insulting comment. If I misspoke I'll except that and learn from it.
Say what you have to say constructively as mature adults do or go play somewhere else.

Minian
sorry to "barge in w/ an insulting comment". i'm just trying to stop the dissemimation of bad information. your post was not correct and i called you on it. learn and move on. i stand by my "think before submit" comment.
 
Old May 3, 2008 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by bean
sorry to "barge in w/ an insulting comment". i'm just trying to stop the dissemimation of bad information. your post was not correct and i called you on it. learn and move on. i stand by my "think before submit" comment.
Bean, apology accepted.

I was told by a police officer, well practiced in radar detection, that changes in OEM tire width and diameter affect the accuracy of your odometer/speedometer. Is it true? Maybe not, but having been a part of stealth development I know that small variations make a big difference in R.A.D.A.R signature. To the average person tire width and diameter has nothing to do with radar/odometer readings, but to those with training albeit Police or Military/Georgia Tech (as I have) there is a difference.
I concede my word choice was wrong, but the point I was trying to make was not. Changing tire width/height affects odometer accuracy hence radar differences that may get you a ticket.

I guess I should have said that in the first place.

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Old May 3, 2008 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Minian
Bean, apology accepted.

I was told by a police officer, well practiced in radar detection, that changes in OEM tire width and diameter affect the accuracy of your odometer/speedometer. Is it true? Maybe not, but having been a part of stealth development I know that small variations make a big difference in R.A.D.A.R signature. To the average person tire width and diameter has nothing to do with radar/odometer readings, but to those with training albeit Police or Military/Georgia Tech (as I have) there is a difference.
I concede my word choice was wrong, but the point I was trying to make was not. Changing tire width/height affects odometer accuracy hence radar differences that may get you a ticket.

I guess I should have said that in the first place.

Minian

Height effects it of course, width does not.


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Old May 3, 2008 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Minian
OC- Yes you're right. Though dependent on wheel weight and tire side-wall height your ride quality and braking distance will suffer.
Oh! Thanks for correcting me maturely.

Minian
Not a problem. I was merely "mentioning" the difference.... didn't see any point in being sarcastic, just pointing it out.

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Old May 3, 2008 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by orangecrush
Not a problem. I was merely "mentioning" the difference.... didn't see any point in being sarcastic, just pointing it out.

Mark
Gotcha,

No hard feeling towards anyone.

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Old May 3, 2008 | 05:38 PM
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Technically width will affect the overal diameter as the sidewall height is a percentage of the width of the tire. A 215/45 17 tire will have a larger diameter than a 195/45 17 tire.
 
Old May 3, 2008 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by rippymcs
Technically width will affect the overal diameter as the sidewall height is a percentage of the width of the tire. A 215/45 17 tire will have a larger diameter than a 195/45 17 tire.
Correct but the comment was made that different width RIMS, not tires were in question.

Original quote....

Originally Posted by Minian
I see what you mean, but the bigger wider rims change the accuracy of the odometer.
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Old May 4, 2008 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Minian
Bean, apology accepted.

I was told by a police officer, well practiced in radar detection, that changes in OEM tire width and diameter affect the accuracy of your odometer/speedometer. Is it true? Maybe not, but having been a part of stealth development I know that small variations make a big difference in R.A.D.A.R signature. To the average person tire width and diameter has nothing to do with radar/odometer readings, but to those with training albeit Police or Military/Georgia Tech (as I have) there is a difference.
I concede my word choice was wrong, but the point I was trying to make was not. Changing tire width/height affects odometer accuracy hence radar differences that may get you a ticket.

I guess I should have said that in the first place.

Minian
First off, it doesn't take someone "well practiced in radar detection" to know that a different overall diameter tire will cause a change in odometer reading.

Second, seeing as how a police offer CANNOT write you a ticket unless you are more than 5mph OVER the speed limit (at least in Florida, it's just a 'warning'), the fact that your odometer is reading 5% slower than you are actually going DOESN'T matter. At 5%, going any legal speed limit, it wouldn't put you 5mph over the limit regardless. So your point is moot. Sorry, just had to call you out on that.

Anywho, for NICE lips, not that crap I mentioned earlier, wide wheels and low offsets are a must, a bigger diameter wheel is NOT necessary.
 

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Old May 4, 2008 | 12:43 PM
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I hereby declare this feud ended!
 
Old May 4, 2008 | 12:51 PM
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i don't normally slam someone in a post. maybe it just hit me at the wrong time/day....back to wheels. i'll post here when kodiak finally ships my new track wheels and open myself to any critique. love, greg
 
Old May 4, 2008 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by bean
i don't normally slam someone in a post. maybe it just hit me at the wrong time/day....back to wheels. i'll post here when kodiak finally ships my new track wheels and open myself to any critique. love, greg
"love" haha

Can't wait to see those Kodiaks, which ones did you go with?
 
Old May 4, 2008 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by bionictcoopermini
I hereby declare this feud ended!
You're right bionic, no sense in allowing it to go on.
 
Old May 4, 2008 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Wake|MCS

Can't wait to see those Kodiaks, which ones did you go with?
not in the catalog! you'll see soon.
 
Old May 4, 2008 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by #20Works4me
Thanks Minian, I'm not a DS fan either but your "Patriotism" shot looks great. BTW I like your tow hook! You've certainly got the right look going on with your color combo!
Thanks #20
That was my 03 Mini in the Patriotism Shot, which is the one in flames in my gallery. I ordered an 06 with the same specs, I could have had an 07, but didn't like the looks of it.

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Old May 4, 2008 | 07:46 PM
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Here are my wheels and tires, just installed. They are SportMax 009, 7 x 17, 40 offset. Tires are Goodyear Eagle F1 All-Season, 205x17-45.
 
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Old May 5, 2008 | 08:47 AM
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Not to beat a subject up more but if your worried about different tire/rim sizes affecting the speedo/odometer you can always use a sat nav system as a measuring stick. I've got a garmin and it tracks MPH and distance. I used it to check the accuracy when I went to my 18" rims.
 
Old May 5, 2008 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Minian
Not true, I have a half set of 17x7 with a 3" lip. (Volution-VRD 5) Can't seem to find any simple replacements. I like wheels that are easy to clean.

Minian
Unless the wheel face is ridiculously convex (cheater's way of getting lip on skinny wheels) , that would require the wheel to be 17x7 et 12 and would look pretty goofy on a MINI with such a skinny wheel poking that much.
 
Old May 5, 2008 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Rally@StanceDesign
Unless the wheel face is ridiculously convex (cheater's way of getting lip on skinny wheels) , that would require the wheel to be 17x7 et 12 and would look pretty goofy on a MINI with such a skinny wheel poking that much.

Again not true, I received numerous compliments and offers to buy.
Remember: Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
I'm not familiar with the term, but the tire shops called them "reverse rims."

Minian
 



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