It just seems funny to complain about fitment issues. I don't complain that companies can't make a strut brace that clears the MC battery.....i just understand that it doesnt fit my car. I certainly wouldn't call up the wheel company if their 15 inch wheels didn't fit over my aftermarket BBK....i made the decision to get the BBK, the wheel company isn't to blame there.

If you have an exhaust that the USS doesn't fit over, just understand that it wasn't made for your car.

 

I'm curious, what part of the USS is in the way?

I to have fitment issues with the USS and a long tube header. The single bar portion of the USS lines up right where the header flange is located. We opted to leave that bar out. The other pieces are installed with no clearance issues.

 

the single piece hits both the Alta and Milltek resonators and the trapezoidal front section hitting the OEM cat.

I'm done with this thread....far be it from me to share info about issues with those potential buyers who might also want to avoid the same mistakes and financial loss.

 

I did take it to a mechanic. Several times. A mechanic that was recommended by Randy. To install a part that Randy said would fit my car. And I will echo what PGT said: "What customer who buys a USS owns a stock car?"

But there is no company out there that claims that their strut bar will clear the battery box when they know it doesn't.

 

Seems two different issues are colliding. No, you can't blame a third party manufacturer for not making a part to fit your car (issue 2). But, you can blame it for claiming that it will fit your particular vehicle when it doesn't (issue 1).

The point isn't whether or not you can fix it; if the claim isn't true, it shouldn't have been made.

 

Not true M7 Does check out this thread.

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=97530


I know for a fack there is atleast one 03 MC that you would have to mod the battery boxs to make this fit. But I guess that doesn't count. We all know everyone of these cars is different so just admit it fits on some and wont fit on others. Thats all we want.

 

I think more importantly, by this time it is a well documented issue that the USS will not fit some cars with after market exhausts. It seems abundantly clear that the M7 representatives are well aware of it. At least based on their participation in this thread. Yet, there have yet to be a disclaimer anywhere on their web site, or in any of their advertisements/brochures to address the fact. It would seem that they are choosing to keep this important bit of information as quiet as possible. One is only left to wonder why.

 

You think it might have to do with selling more?

 

I don't know. According to some, I am not that smart.

 

That and they most likely think no press is bad press.

 

WOW! Now it is a conspiracy!

 

We all knew that .

 

No, just a marketing strategy.

 

Actually, if you bought the product and it didn't fit right why didn't you send it back for a refund? I don't get that.

 

What fun would that be ..... that is a really good question really.

 

An obvious error in judgment on my part. Many variables contributed to my decision to keep trying to make it work, not the least of which were M7 assurances that they would help.

 

No ability to come on here and gripe? Got me....

Anyway, I doubt that they (M7) would argue it. In fact I would be willing to bet that they would be interested in the specs so that they can figure a workaround or flag potential buyers. Lastly, I would figure that there is a way to make it work but it would involve some real machine work.

 

So you are griping about miss-communications? I totally understand that you are upset about this, but from our perspective this is an "I said, they said" thread that spun off of a guys post saying that he liked the product.

What did you provide to M7 in the way of specs while asking for help? Obviously if it didn't fit, a workaround would have to be fabricated which means that they would need information to make the part for you and to be honest, it would probably be cheaper for them to refund your cash unless they wanted to expand the product line. (I can’t name a vendor that wouldn’t want to do this)

I don't know what went down in the conversations so it is all hearsay to me.

Do you still have the product?

 

Here we go again.... Some just believe if it's MINI, or any company that provides product allegedly for MINI, we are just supposed to tolerate lousy customer service, lies, misrepresentations, etc. I just don't get it. If I order something for my MINI that a company says will fit/work on my MINI and, in fact, it doesn't, I see no reason to just accept it. Yeah, I'd send it back ---- but that doesn't mean I should quietly go into the sunset, especially if I didn't have any way to discover it didn't fit before attempting the install...... I have learned a lot of stuff on NAM and, personally, I would like to know if a company is honest about what it sells. Based on posts in NAM I have intentioanlly ordered from some companies and not others. So, if you got a problem, SAY IT!

 

I disagree. Their attitude has pretty much been that if it doesn't fit, than it is your exhaust. So your choice is to keep one, or the other. They have had plenty of time to offer a disclaimer, or a warning and haven't. Honestly, I wish there was a way to make it work. I had enough washers on mine that it created a ground clearance issue. I had my mechanic grind down the offending part (with Randy's knowledge and blessing) to within a hair of it's functionality. Still didn't help.

I understand that I come of as bitching and moaning. Aside to relaying my experience, the only point I am trying to get across by now is that they know there is a problem. A responsible company who really cared about their customers would issue a warning.

 

Fair enough, perhaps a posting on their site to show that some exhaust systems might cause fitting issues. This does not mean that the company is being dishonest, just lazy. Goaljnky even stated that they said one or the other. I guess this means that they would except a return in a situation like this and that is acceptable

Lastly, I have a stock exhaust and a modded car and Abuzavi seems to have had no problems as well. Not all people mod the way that you do. I have considered a different exhaust and Milltek was not on my list.

Bottom line is that you guys are bitching and moaning about nothing. If it doesn't fit, send it back and be done with it. Not all mods work well together I think that this is apparent. Heck even Don posted about this and was ripped to shreds....

Too much time on your hands, go drive.

 

Actually, I don't have enough time on my hands to waste ordering and trying to install products that don't work or don't fit like the vendor claims they do. Sure, I'll send I back. But I'd prefer to hear from non-gruntled customers here, so that I won't bother to order from that vendor to begin with.

 

That is your choice but why spin somones praise thread into your own vendetta run when you haven't even tried the product? I also don't get that? For as much as you complain about others beating you up, you seem to do a lot of the same exact thing.

 

[quote=PGT; In the end, the benefits of the USS don't outweigh the PITA it is to deal with on anything but a stock car. What customer who buys a USS owns a stock car? [/quote]

PGT you have completely lost whatever creditability at this point by continuing to issue false information . This claim that the unit only works on stock cars is a lie. Take a min and check the list below.

Those systems with reported issues.
1/ Alta
2/ Miltek

Those without.

1/ Borla street
2/ Borla race
3/ Magnaflow
4/ Supersprint
5/ Remus
6/ Eisenman
7/ ?

 

I am not claiming anyone is beating me up. Nor am I beating anyone up. I am simply responding to the notion that we, as MINI owners, should just quietly accept things that are wrong because that's the price of being a MINI owner. I have no vendetta and my comments are not directed to a specific vendor, but any that sell products that don't work as they claim.