I agree completely.

In general, and based upon my experience, a 400lb/in spring defines the limit in a 2,500-2,600 lb car for a street application. Dampers need to be pretty hefty as well to control that rate.

300lb-350lb/in is a better range for street driving - I'll assume we're discussing linear rate springs. If other rates are available while utilizing the same damper architecture...


[edit] I hope that everyone is paying attention to the spring rates listed. I have a feeling that the vast majority of the mini market will not be happy with 400lb linear springs - especially given the number of harshness complaints that I've seen already. Better to be upfront with this rather than have people come back complaining about a poor ride later on.

 

They Coilovers are looking to be aearly to mid november release. There is a group buy for those that want to get introductory Pricing. up to a $150 savings.

The Final Specs are 390 in/lbs spring rate, 32 way adjustable shocks, Front Adjustable Camber Mounts, Spring Pre-load adjustment, and Height Adjustment (+1" to -3") Yes, I said +1" great for those winter climates..

They will be retailing for 1095.00

This is about 200 less then any other coilover setup on the market (Even more when you factor in that you need an seperate Camber Adjustment for the front. That will run you approx another 500.

This is less then a shock / spring / camber replacement as well. approx(1300+)

This is the best suspension deal on the market.

 

So the group buy would be $945????

Did you get to change that rear adjustment at all?

 

Here is th Group Buy Link

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=53788

 

Geeeez, and I just bought the Bilsteins...

 

Yup, sorry noticed the group buy after i posted my last question. So in regards to the rear adjustment, whats this mean exactly?

 

Pilo: Is there any chance to get spring rates other than what's included, even if they're extra? Or, do the coilovers use a relatively normal spring size, such that we could buy our own springs from Hypercoil or Eibach?

Also, sorry if I've missed it, but what is the construction style of the shocks [i.e. twintube, monotube, non-pressure], and are they of the Leda-rebuild-them-often or the Koni-lifetime-assembly style?

Great deal on the group buy!
Thanks and Cheers,
Ryan

 

DAN
I think everyone is waiting to hear how you fixed the rear adjustment. I believe group buy numbers are pending on this problem. Thanks for your help.

 

Well, here it is, The first Picture of a Upper Rear Adjustable Shock.

 

So we have to drill a hole??????

 

Yea,

A Small Hose will be drilled into the Area where the shock top is. A template will be included so that a single hole can be Drilled. This will allow you to adjust the rebound with out having to remove the shock and Tire. We have a perfectly measured adjuster to fit into the hole, and into the shock to allow for the adjustment.

 

It's the only practical solution, and it's not so bad, it's not in a location where water or debris from the road can easily access, so I'd put it in the "don't worry about it" category. I suppose the paranoid folks could remove the adjuster and put a rubber plug in there after they've tuned the shock setting. Having an access hole is MUCH easier than removing the shock each time you want to adjust [trust me!]

Cheers,
Ryan

 

I think that you mean Can't Easily Access. It is above where all of the suspension bolts to the car.

 

ive seen some people in Japan do similar mods like that on other cars that do not have access through the trunk. they use what looks like a thick wire with a handle (collar) on the end and there's an allen key on the other end of that wire that attaches to the piston shaft.

you'd make two holes...one as the pict above, then another one by the boot
wall. Just grab that handle (collar) from the boot and turn it to set
your damp rate. :smile:

wish TEIN's EDFC was universal

 

That would be the case if I phrased the sentence differently. I wrote "...it's not in a location where water or debris from the road can easily access...", and what you were thinking of was "...it's in a location that can't easily access..." Either case is a single negative.

 

I completely understood why it is where it is, i was just hoping a solution for adjustment from below would have surfaced. But as stated that probably would have needed to much work and would have been too costly.

Could we possibly get another picture to show where this adjustment **** will be accessible from the inside of the car. The current shot is very close up so i can't tell if thats behind one of the little panels in the hatch area?

I'm really pushing to join in the group buy, just gotta see if i can unload some stuff real quick to offset the cost.

MINIPilo, any possibilities of more pics of the kit installed or uninstalled?

 

The Location is in the rear, and ends up next 2 the rear seat on both sides, behind the plastic. It is easily adjustable through the removable rear panels though. You will also need to remove some of the foam back there for the install.

You also do not want to leave the adjustment tool in there because of the suspension movement during driving. the Geometry of the suspension causes the shock to change angles, and could break the tool.

Regarding the Spring Size. I will have to check that for you.

Here are some Pictures.

 

Huge thanx Pilo! Those are exactly the large closeup pics i was looking for! I know alot of people will appreciate those!

Hmmmm, interesting about leaving the tool in the rear. I thought that was a semi permanant install type thing. I guess its still more of a "figure the rear end out soon and leave it that way".

Pilo will you update us if you reach 5 buyers? I'm VERY interested, just as i said though, i gotta figure some stuff out first.

 

What I recomend and will provide is a lenght of silicone tube that can be used as a guide when inserting the tool This way, you do not need to fuss, just insert, adjust, and remove. Real Quick. I like the way it works on my car, and I really love the setup. It blows away and spring replacement / Camber Adjustment that I had on my car prior to this. And what I am also looking foward to is not being a plow in the winter by raising the height of my car up.

 

Does the adjustment **** change rebound only, or compression and rebound together?

I looked on Megan's site, but couldn't find anything.

I know it's a longshot, but any chance of getting a shock dyno graph?

 

I will get as much info as I can regarding your questions.

 

The Shocks are Rebound and Compression. I'll get the other info for you when I can.

 

As it is getting closer to november, I do need people to state there interest soon. This groupbuy is over as soon as I have stock of this item.


Please Post https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=53788 here if you are interested.

 

Oh damn, those pics just made me mess the monitor...and the keyboard

Super hot pics Dan, I'm down for the Group Buy, I can't resist the evil temptation

 

I'm sure everybody can find something to pick at here. I like this deal and the specs almost enough to overlook the spring rate....but 390 lb/in is a bit much for the street......right?