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Suspension Cross Competition vs Ohlin/Hyperco/Vorshag/various end links

Old Oct 29, 2014 | 05:11 AM
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Cross Competition vs Ohlin/Hyperco/Vorshag/various end links

Anyone have input on how these compare? I've a hunch the Ohlin set might be a bit better, but with the full package I think the Cross come out a bit less. I'm reading on 'em and the Cross sound like a good set (although a tad pricey like the Ohlins), only saw one negative review so far.


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Old Nov 5, 2014 | 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Aelwulf
Anyone have input on how these compare? I've a hunch the Ohlin set might be a bit better, but with the full package I think the Cross come out a bit less. I'm reading on 'em and the Cross sound like a good set (although a tad pricey like the Ohlins), only saw one negative review so far.


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Are you asking about end links or coilovers???
 
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Old Nov 5, 2014 | 07:30 AM
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Yes, in a way. Primarily the coilovers. But since the Cross set comes with one set of end links and camber plates (which some Ohlins do I think?) I put the rest all together for a roughly equivalent comparison for the price.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2014 | 10:47 AM
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ohlins do not come with plates or end links.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2014 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by whrisk
ohlins do not come with plates or end links.
That's what I thought, hence adding them for the comparison. I wasn't 100% though as I thought the pics from someone else's recent thread about some had plates on the front.

Thanks for the input. Doesn't seem there's much of an experience pool for this specific comparison. Maybe I'll get lucky and be able to provide one in a couple of years. :D
 
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Old Nov 5, 2014 | 02:49 PM
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You can't beat Ohlins and Vorshlag for the mini.

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Old Nov 6, 2014 | 08:45 AM
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I agree
 
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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 04:24 AM
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Anyone try on the ST X, ST XTA and Bilstein PSS B14? Any feedback? Thank you.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2014 | 10:35 AM
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That thread title is pretty confusing. Vorshlag only makes camber plates, hyperco only makes springs. I'd go for Ohlins over Cross all day every day. I personally am running Vorshlag camber plates and custom valved Koni double-adjustables (used to be TC Kline shocks).

Lots of people running similar setups here you just need to be more specific with your questions if you want answers.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2014 | 10:37 PM
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When I upgrade my cheap shocks for a coilovers system it will be the ohlins for sure, these are high-end, that can be adjusted in a few minutes from super soft to track conditions. I don't know of any other coilover setup that can do from soft to hard dampening. They do require re-valving every 40-50K miles, I was told this by an Ohlins dealer.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2014 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by v10climber
That thread title is pretty confusing. Vorshlag only makes camber plates, hyperco only makes springs. I'd go for Ohlins over Cross all day every day. I personally am running Vorshlag camber plates and custom valved Koni double-adjustables (used to be TC Kline shocks).

Lots of people running similar setups here you just need to be more specific with your questions if you want answers.
I added the rest to try and keep it as apples to apples as possible (all the same parts). Probably should've put that in the body though true. The Cross has the shocks, springs, camber plates, and one set of end links included. So to just compare vs Ohlins there'd be several pieces missing. Hence the mish-mash.

Thanks all for the input. I think I like the Ohlin combo better from what I've been reading on here. I just didn't know if there was limited mention of the Cross set because everyone just automatically went for the Ohlins or if there was a reason most weren't trying out the Cross ones.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2014 | 12:56 PM
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Buddy of mine got Cross, but sold them quickly right after. So I never had any seat time in his MINI, but he now has JRZ coilovers and they're really good. Very pricey, but they are a solid set of coilovers. Ohlins are softer because it's a Road & Track version of their suspension, which can be revalved however you want in the future if you send them in for revalve job, but the JRZ are track coilovers and they're stiffer and ride height are the same as they have helper springs as well. If you've got money to blow, JRZ's are sweet system.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2015 | 05:24 PM
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Just ordered my Ohlins R+T with Vorshlag camber plate combo! Can't wait.

Will I require shorter end links?
 
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Old Jan 16, 2015 | 05:25 PM
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Yes you will.
 
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How much lower than stock are the Ohlins/Vorshlag setup than stock. It took only 8 weeks to get the Vorshlag plates and I am going to install this weekend. Any recommendations on setup?
 
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How much lower than stock are the Ohlins/Vorshlag setup than stock. It took only 8 weeks to get the Vorshlag plates and I am going to install this weekend. Any recommendations on setup?
I'm not exactly sure how much the lowering range is with Ohlins, but there is a good thread on NAM here with some photos of the set up mentioned above.

http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/..._pg1.htm#item0
 
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Originally Posted by Club77
Anyone try on the ST X, ST XTA and Bilstein PSS B14? Any feedback? Thank you.
If you're looking for a best bang for your buck coil over, the ST X's are they way to go. If you're wanting more than just adjustable ride height, such as dampening control and camber plates, then the ST XTA coil lovers are a great choice. I've had both installed onto daily drivers and big HP builds with great results.

http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/...pg3.htm#item13
 
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