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Old 06-25-2012, 01:21 PM
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Alignment Specifications

Anyone have a link to the alignment specifications for the 2011/12 Countryman FWD ?

I'll be installing the NM springs this week and will have to tinker with the new lower settings and the change to the camber.

Thanks in advance, Robert Patton
 
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if anyone has them, please add the specs for the All4 too

thanks

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FYI You may have to get some lower links to deal with Alignment. Every car is different though.
 
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Originally Posted by RPatton
Anyone have a link to the alignment specifications for the 2011/12 Countryman FWD ?

I'll be installing the NM springs this week and will have to tinker with the new lower settings and the change to the camber.

Thanks in advance, Robert Patton
the box that the NM springs come with have the recommended specs on there. If you cant find it, let me know and I'll scan the sheet for you
 
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Shoe, the springs are on----but who reads the instructions.
Thank you for the tip, I'll go back and look in the box.

Was able to get the rear camber back to -1.5 and -1.5. Toe on rear is neutral.

The front is fixed (don't want to spend any more $ than I already have spent) and the numbers are -.75 and -.5. I set the front toe at 1/8" out.

Let me now see what the NM paperwork suggest.

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Originally Posted by Shoe Coupe
the box that the NM springs come with have the recommended specs on there. If you cant find it, let me know and I'll scan the sheet for you
NM recommends the following setups.

Performance minded motoring:
FRONT, Camber-Not ajustable, Toe-Set total toe to -0.10 deg (toe out)
REAR, Camber-Adjust to -1.75 to -2.00 deg, Toe-Set total toe in 0.20 deg (toe in)

For prudent minded motoring:
FRONT, Camber-Not ajustable, Toe-Set total toe to 0.20 deg (toe in)
REAR, Camber-Adjust to -1.50 to -1.70 deg, Toe-Set total toe in 0.40 deg (toe in)
 
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Thanks CountryStyle.

The Degree equivalent to inches thing messes up a lot of folks.

This car was way too twichy when purchased used from a long history of one or two goofy previous owners. Long story,short version: the toe was at 1/2" in.

10 degrees out would be very close to 1/16" out.
I'll leave mine set at 1/8" out to get rid of the twichyness.

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thosea re the specs. thx, but are they obtainable w/o getting adjustable arms?
 
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I think an alignment thread would be incomplete without mentioning the "Alta Positive Steering Response System"

http://www.outmotoring.com/mini-coop...se_system.html

Adding caster will hugely improve straight line stability and initial turn-in bite.

They are only listed up to the R59 and not the R60 but these would be so win on a countryman.
 
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Mine set at .8 front and 2.0 in rear with SPC Control Arms
 
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factory specs for R60 SAll4. with 17's

 
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Originally Posted by SmithWerks
factory specs for R60 SAll4. with 17's

Thanks for posting. Where did you get that image? It looks to be from the computer at a shop. Seems like an awful lot of negative camber, but it's looking more and more like what MINI wants for the car. Weird.
 
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its from my friends shop. Its a 2 week old Hunter machine. Pretty much of of the newest from Hunter(which is considered the benchmark for alignment machines). All the specs are in the system. I just asked him to look it up, my CM was not even there.
 
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Originally Posted by SmithWerks
its from my friends shop. Its a 2 week old Hunter machine. Pretty much of of the newest from Hunter(which is considered the benchmark for alignment machines). All the specs are in the system. I just asked him to look it up, my CM was not even there.
could you ask for the cms all4 specs with 18" wheels?

thanks

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could you ask for the cms all4 specs with 18" wheels?

thanks

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I can't imagine they are different. For any size wheel.

They might be slightly different for the sport suspension if the car is a little lower.
 
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Originally Posted by y8s
I can't imagine they are different. For any size wheel.

They might be slightly different for the sport suspension if the car is a little lower.
i do have the sport suspension and 18" wheels

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Originally Posted by bmwr606
i do have the sport suspension and 18" wheels

scott
then the screenshot above should be what you want.
 
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Originally Posted by SmithWerks
factory specs for R60 SAll4. with 17's

Hi,

I'm new here and I'm from canada but I can't see the picture of the alignment specs and my browser says the security certificate is not valid. Any suggestions? I have a 2011 cooper S countryman All4 and it has 18 inch wheels so I think it has the sport suspension. My wife bought it used so I wasn't able to ask any questions of the dealer. Took it for an alignment and the technician said it doesn't have enough adjustment to bring the rear camber figures into spec. I'm told I need an adjustable lower control arm to solve the problem if this is the case any suggestions on a suitable part? Doesn't need to be the best but don't want junk.

Thanks,
Wynnster
 
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I was just searching these numbers and wanted to help Wynnster out:

For 2011- R60 Countryman All4
FRONT:
Left Camber: -0.60°, Tol 0.50°
Right Camber: -0.60°, Tol 0.50°
Total Toe: 0.30°, Tol 0.20°

REAR:
Left Camber: -2.10°, Tol 0.42°
Right Camber: -2.10°, Tol 0.42°
Total Toe 0.33°, Tol 0.50°

Factory specs seem like a lot of toe in both F and R as well as very little negative camber up front. If you even smell something that resembles a hard corner, you might want to consider discovering ways to get more out of the car. I imagine it's not adjustable (I haven't looked).
 
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I just had the nm lowering springs put on and went to get the alignment done and asked to have it set according to nm's "performance minded" specs.

Unfortunately it turned out that I am stuck at -3 degrees camber on the rear until I get adjustable control arms. Corners great but there goes the tires. At least until I want to drop $$$ on arms and another alignment. Think I'll just do it all at once when these tires are shot.

True that every car seems to be different. Seems like some people are fine without adjustable arms.

For whatever reason, the left rear was at -3 and the right was at -2 initially, and since they couldnt bring the left in, they had to put the right one at -3 to match.
 
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Dear friends, sorry to bring the topic back up but I need your help. Just bought myself a 11/11 Countryman S All4 with the 18" wheels and I need to do the wheel alignment, but to do that I also need the specs for the wheel Convergence, not just the camber. Can you help me out?

Thanks a lot in advance.
 
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