Suspension Please Read if you had vibration after lowering
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Please Read if you had vibration after lowering
OK so when i lowered my car i felt a vibration and it was all sorted out after I got my alignment done, well over a year later it came back and it came back really bad.. took it in and checked it out.. Drive Shaft boot is gone because it was lowered so it finally wore out.. Car is vibrating so bad that i have parked it.. the best thing.. no warranty because damage is done due to the car being lowered. Parts cost just over $2400 CND.
I remember we had chatted about what the longer term is to the vibration.. well this is it.. sucks..
I am running H&R RSS Coilovers but i have mine slammed all the way down, i think its about a 2inch drop so thats why my shaft went so fast.. so i am raising the car up a bit and checking it out.. parts are coming in from Germany so I am out the Mini for a few weeks..
totally SUCKS.. so everyone please double check your set up.. dont get jacked like me.
Thanks.
I remember we had chatted about what the longer term is to the vibration.. well this is it.. sucks..
I am running H&R RSS Coilovers but i have mine slammed all the way down, i think its about a 2inch drop so thats why my shaft went so fast.. so i am raising the car up a bit and checking it out.. parts are coming in from Germany so I am out the Mini for a few weeks..
totally SUCKS.. so everyone please double check your set up.. dont get jacked like me.
Thanks.
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there are a couple things at play here...
one is that the angle on the CV joint is higher, this means there is more flexing on the boot so it and the CV joint get a lot more wear. One other thing, and this is strut dependant, is that a slammed car will have much less travel for the struts and you'll bottom them over bumps.
In this case, it sounds like it's more caused by the former than the latter of the two things that happen.
Bummer that this has happened. But you're not the first that has been bitten in the butt by this one.
Matt
In this case, it sounds like it's more caused by the former than the latter of the two things that happen.
Bummer that this has happened. But you're not the first that has been bitten in the butt by this one.
Matt
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one is that the angle on the CV joint is higher, this means there is more flexing on the boot so it and the CV joint get a lot more wear. One other thing, and this is strut dependant, is that a slammed car will have much less travel for the struts and you'll bottom them over bumps.
In this case, it sounds like it's more caused by the former than the latter of the two things that happen.
Bummer that this has happened. But you're not the first that has been bitten in the butt by this one.
Matt
In this case, it sounds like it's more caused by the former than the latter of the two things that happen.
Bummer that this has happened. But you're not the first that has been bitten in the butt by this one.
Matt
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Here is the other thread you should read. It is a little more definitive on the subject. I raised mine back up 1/4 inch and I do not have any more vibration.
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-lowering.html
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...-lowering.html
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I don't believe the lowering has anything to do with the boot wearing out early. You lowering the car an 1-2 inches doesn't strech the boot nearly as bad as just turning the wheels. When you cut your wheels one way or the other puts far more stress then just being lowered abit. All you guys raising your car back up so that you boots last longer shoud just stop turning and only drive straight.
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Lowering your mini will actually decrease the angle slightly and should have zero affect on the boot. That being said, when you change the angle of the axle you change it's overall length slightly and that could cause either the inner or outer cv's to fit or wear differently. Sometimes The ball's in the CV's will wear grooves into the joints, lowering can put your joint right on the edge of that groove and cause vibration. I think the tech was correct in diagnosing the axle(s) as the problem, but it doesn't sound like a real diagnosis.
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BUMP! I'd like to rejuvenate this thread because I just installed the H&R Touring Cup Kit, which uses the H&R springs (-1.4" all around). I also got he car aligned within spec on the day of installation and I've noticed the problem since. I can't see how 1.4" inches causes such an extreme angle on the CV's...Like N1tro said, lowering the car should only lessen the angle of the half shafts...I also find it puzzling that some guys with the same setup have no issues at all!
Anyway, this pulsation when accelerating is awful and as **** as I am about my car, this is not sitting well with me! There's gotta be a sure fire fix...
Anyway, this pulsation when accelerating is awful and as **** as I am about my car, this is not sitting well with me! There's gotta be a sure fire fix...
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You know in the couple years since this thread popped up, I've run into a similar problem with a ton of Subaru's I've worked on. It was always due to these crappy aftermarket axles which were a hair longer than the originals, just enough that the CV joints were a bit over-compressed during regular driving. It's quite possible lowering the Mini, which is going to straighten out the shaft and put the same sort of pressure on the joint(s) could be doing the same thing. I don't know why it affects only some cars, but it could just be a little difference in the motor/trans mounts towards one side or another, or having a little extra camber that's pushing the joints past their comfort zone.
I don't have the vibration so I haven't really dug into the problem, but maybe some of the aftermarket guys might want to look into making some beefed up and slightly shortened drive-shafts ? It wouldn't take much to compare the length between the joints w/ the car at stock height vs. the length lowered and then to look at what the relaxed length of the oem drive-shafts are.
I wouldn't be surprised if Mini has/had two different suppliers for the drive shafts and all the people with vibration problems when lowered have the 1 type.
That's my best guess.
I don't have the vibration so I haven't really dug into the problem, but maybe some of the aftermarket guys might want to look into making some beefed up and slightly shortened drive-shafts ? It wouldn't take much to compare the length between the joints w/ the car at stock height vs. the length lowered and then to look at what the relaxed length of the oem drive-shafts are.
I wouldn't be surprised if Mini has/had two different suppliers for the drive shafts and all the people with vibration problems when lowered have the 1 type.
That's my best guess.