Supercharger bypass valve.
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Supercharger bypass valve.
OK, so I have done a search, but have not come up with quite what happened to my friend and her 05 MCSC.
My friend Bluebelle has a MCSC and has absolutely LOVED it until something extremely alarming happened. She was driving along the Deagan Expressway in the Bronx, NYC, when suddenly, the MINI stopped responding to the accelerator. She pulled from the left lane into the right as the car slowed. THERE IS NO SHOULDER ON THIS ROAD. This is why this became so alarming. She got out of the car (taking her life in her hands to get out and out of the line of busy traffic) and climbed onto the concrete wall to the right of the highway. It was the only place to go to get off the road, and left the MINI in the right lane with its flashers on. Many lunatic drivers had to swerve past it to avoid it.
She immediately did what most of us would do, and called MINI Roadside assistance. She spoke to a girl located in Florida, who was only able to tell her that MINI Roadside Assistance could not resue her from there, and advised her to call 911!!!!!! She knew that this was not a good idea, as it was not a 911 sort of emergency, and that she could be fined for calling 911 under such circumstances. So, considering the dangerous situation, she decided to call her Mercedes dealer, who IMMEDIATELY knew what to do. The MINI Roadside Assistance people should KNOW WHAT TO DO too.
Apparantly around many large cities in this country, the only service that may recover vehicles from the roadways are from the City itself. The Mercedes guy KNEW THIS and called the city recovery service and quickly one was sent out and the MINI was towed out of this horrible area and situation, fortunately unscathed!!
It was taken to the MINI dealer and they discovered that the Supercharger bypass valve had failed, which caused the engine not to respond to the accelerator pedal.
THE WORST PART OF THIS is that the dealer said that he has had about FIVE instances of this problem on 2005 MINIs. This is rather alarming in itself, without it happening on such a frightening road. I now know NEVER to drive on a busy highway where there is no shoulder!!!!!!!!!! Just in case!!!!
I have learned tonight that perhaps, had my friend floored the accelerator pedal, she could have got the car to move and therefore get off that scarey highway.
Any other experiences like this???? Also with MINI Roadside Assistance Respondants being uninformed?????
My friend Bluebelle has a MCSC and has absolutely LOVED it until something extremely alarming happened. She was driving along the Deagan Expressway in the Bronx, NYC, when suddenly, the MINI stopped responding to the accelerator. She pulled from the left lane into the right as the car slowed. THERE IS NO SHOULDER ON THIS ROAD. This is why this became so alarming. She got out of the car (taking her life in her hands to get out and out of the line of busy traffic) and climbed onto the concrete wall to the right of the highway. It was the only place to go to get off the road, and left the MINI in the right lane with its flashers on. Many lunatic drivers had to swerve past it to avoid it.
She immediately did what most of us would do, and called MINI Roadside assistance. She spoke to a girl located in Florida, who was only able to tell her that MINI Roadside Assistance could not resue her from there, and advised her to call 911!!!!!! She knew that this was not a good idea, as it was not a 911 sort of emergency, and that she could be fined for calling 911 under such circumstances. So, considering the dangerous situation, she decided to call her Mercedes dealer, who IMMEDIATELY knew what to do. The MINI Roadside Assistance people should KNOW WHAT TO DO too.
Apparantly around many large cities in this country, the only service that may recover vehicles from the roadways are from the City itself. The Mercedes guy KNEW THIS and called the city recovery service and quickly one was sent out and the MINI was towed out of this horrible area and situation, fortunately unscathed!!
It was taken to the MINI dealer and they discovered that the Supercharger bypass valve had failed, which caused the engine not to respond to the accelerator pedal.
THE WORST PART OF THIS is that the dealer said that he has had about FIVE instances of this problem on 2005 MINIs. This is rather alarming in itself, without it happening on such a frightening road. I now know NEVER to drive on a busy highway where there is no shoulder!!!!!!!!!! Just in case!!!!
I have learned tonight that perhaps, had my friend floored the accelerator pedal, she could have got the car to move and therefore get off that scarey highway.
Any other experiences like this???? Also with MINI Roadside Assistance Respondants being uninformed?????
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The bypass valve part number or design has not changed since 2002.
Sorry to hear of this failure, but it also sounds more like a scare tactic than anything. What exactly failed on the bypass valve? The bypass valve defaults to being closed (thus facilitating power production) if the vacuum line is cut/removed).
Sorry to hear of this failure, but it also sounds more like a scare tactic than anything. What exactly failed on the bypass valve? The bypass valve defaults to being closed (thus facilitating power production) if the vacuum line is cut/removed).
Last edited by Ryephile; 05-19-2005 at 08:04 PM.
#3
Originally Posted by Ryephile
The bypass valve part number or design has not changed since 2002.
Sorry to hear of this failure, but it also sounds more like a scare tactic than anything. What exactly failed on the bypass valve? The bypass valve defaults to being closed (thus facilitating power production) if the vacuum line is cut/removed).
Sorry to hear of this failure, but it also sounds more like a scare tactic than anything. What exactly failed on the bypass valve? The bypass valve defaults to being closed (thus facilitating power production) if the vacuum line is cut/removed).
I am glad to hear that there is not something new on the 05 and that it isn't necessarily a particular problem for the 05 as the dealer lead my friend to believe. :smile:
I will have to find out more!!!
Thanks for your reply Ryephile.
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Originally Posted by Jollynut
She spoke to a girl located in Florida, who was only able to tell her that MINI Roadside Assistance could not resue her from there, and advised her to call 911!!!!!! She knew that this was not a good idea, as it was not a 911 sort of emergency, and that she could be fined for calling 911 under such circumstances. So, considering the dangerous situation...
#7
Originally Posted by eadien7
I had this happen to me twice last week. Luckily I was in a parking lot leaving work. I turned off the ignition and restarted the car and it ran fine until 4 days later when it happened again. The dealer replaced the bypass valve.
Having worked so intimately with the bypass valve in the MCS, I know the quirks and functionality of it. I don't see how, even if one failed, would it cause the car to be unable to at least go into a proverbial mechanical limp mode and get out of it's own way. You can tie the bypass valve open and the car still has some power.
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Originally Posted by WhatUglyBrutes
The drama. Don't be ridiculous, calling 911 was an excellent suggestion. You yourself called it a "dangerous situation". 911 is FOR dangerous situations. It makes perfect logical sense to advise someone in that situation to treat it like an emergency. Duh.
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Originally Posted by Ryephile
The bypass valve is a passive, mechanical device that defaults to being closed. Restarting the car made no difference in its' functionality. I'm not sure what your vehicles' actual problem was, but it wasn't the bypass valve. For what it's worth, according to the dealership it's called a "shut-off valve".
Having worked so intimately with the bypass valve in the MCS, I know the quirks and functionality of it. I don't see how, even if one failed, would it cause the car to be unable to at least go into a proverbial mechanical limp mode and get out of it's own way. You can tie the bypass valve open and the car still has some power.
Having worked so intimately with the bypass valve in the MCS, I know the quirks and functionality of it. I don't see how, even if one failed, would it cause the car to be unable to at least go into a proverbial mechanical limp mode and get out of it's own way. You can tie the bypass valve open and the car still has some power.
Will have to find out more. Thanks for all your comments.
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Originally Posted by RallyMINI
By the time i was leaving, they still hadn't had a chance to diagnose it. They were just trying to get it out of the parking lot lane. They were able to get the car started...but they couldnt get it to go anywhere.
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Originally Posted by andy@ross-tech.com
Sounds like a faulty throttle body, not bypass valve. Since the throttle body is not directly connected to the accelerator pedal, if the TB motor fails to work, you're not going anywhere.
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Are you having a problem with the original wiring harness or an add-on?
Originally Posted by JCampos
I am currently going though the same problem. However, mine is caused by the wiring harness (I think!)... some of the terminals have come loose... I really hope the throttle body motor is still working ok
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My car just did the same thing this morning. I was trying to accelerate and my poor Mini just fell on her face. She wouldn't go faster than 40mph. But at least she got me to the service center. I've only had her for a month. Sucks that she's broken already. We'll see what they say.
Good luck with yours.
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Good luck with yours.
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