Stock Problems/Issues Discussions related to warranty related issues and repairs, or other problems with the OEM parts and software for MINI Cooper (R50), Cabrio (R52), and Cooper S (R53) MINIs.

2004 Mini died while driving now it wont’t start

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 13, 2018 | 01:10 PM
  #1  
Etmil35's Avatar
Etmil35
Thread Starter
|
1st Gear
5 Year Member
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Solved: 2004 Mini died while driving now it wont’t start

I have a 2004 Mini Cooper base, automatic with 97,000 miles. Last week, I was driving and the car just died. No symptoms prior to dying, no CEL. Now, it cranks strong, but won’t start. I pulled the fuel line and turned the car to the on position and fuel flows. I checked for spark and it has spark. I looked at the fue box and can’t find any bad fuses. Looking for suggestions on other places to look for the problem.
 

Last edited by Etmil35; May 23, 2018 at 08:11 PM. Reason: Solved
Reply
Old May 13, 2018 | 01:13 PM
  #2  
Whine not Walnuts's Avatar
Whine not Walnuts
OVERDRIVE
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,489
Likes: 629
From: Fuquay Varina, NC
Moving you to the Gen1 Stock Problems/Issues section.

Does is it pop at all when you turn it over?
 
Reply
Old May 13, 2018 | 01:18 PM
  #3  
Etmil35's Avatar
Etmil35
Thread Starter
|
1st Gear
5 Year Member
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Whine not Walnuts
Moving you to the Gen1 Stock Problems/Issues section.

Does is it pop at all when you turn it over?
It’s an automatic so no pop starting.
 

Last edited by Etmil35; May 13, 2018 at 01:49 PM. Reason: Correct post
Reply
Old May 13, 2018 | 02:05 PM
  #4  
Whine not Walnuts's Avatar
Whine not Walnuts
OVERDRIVE
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,489
Likes: 629
From: Fuquay Varina, NC
No, not pushing it, does the engine pop at all when you turn it over?
 
Reply
Old May 13, 2018 | 02:15 PM
  #5  
Etmil35's Avatar
Etmil35
Thread Starter
|
1st Gear
5 Year Member
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Whine not Walnuts
No, not pushing it, does the engine pop at all when you turn it over?
ok, that’s what I initially thought you meant then I saw the post below about “pop” starting a car with similar issues.

No, it sounds fine when cranking.
 
Reply
Old May 13, 2018 | 03:28 PM
  #6  
Whine not Walnuts's Avatar
Whine not Walnuts
OVERDRIVE
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 5,489
Likes: 629
From: Fuquay Varina, NC
Trying to get whether the timing chain moved. When you try to start the car you get no detonation/pop at all?
 
Reply
Old May 13, 2018 | 03:40 PM
  #7  
Etmil35's Avatar
Etmil35
Thread Starter
|
1st Gear
5 Year Member
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Whine not Walnuts
Trying to get whether the timing chain moved. When you try to start the car you get no detonation/pop at all?
No, the engine sounds normal when cranking. The timing chain, tensioner, water pump were all replaced about 1000 miles again.
 
Reply
Old May 13, 2018 | 06:26 PM
  #8  
DamnCampers's Avatar
DamnCampers
3rd Gear
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 172
Likes: 16
From: Southern California
I would say check the ingintion switch as they tend to go. When mine went the car would crank but not fire even with a fully charged battery. Its relativity easy to get to for removal and replacement. If you have the abilty to borrow one for testing it is a quick check to see if its gone bad.
 
Reply
Old May 14, 2018 | 04:05 PM
  #9  
Etmil35's Avatar
Etmil35
Thread Starter
|
1st Gear
5 Year Member
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
I think hits going to turn out to be the fuel pump. Even though I get some fuel from the fuel line when it is popped off the pressure regulator, I hooked up a pressure gauge to it and get no pressure. I also can’t hear the pump kick on when I turn the car to the on position. I just replaced the pump in late December, but it oooks like I will be doing it again...
 
Reply
Old May 20, 2018 | 11:41 AM
  #10  
Etmil35's Avatar
Etmil35
Thread Starter
|
1st Gear
5 Year Member
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
So, took the back seat out to take a look at the pump and it turns out it is turning on when the key is turned on. I pulled the fuel line again and cranked the engine and fuel does come out of the line, just not with much pressure. I pulled the line that runs from the fuel filter assembly and blew air through the line ensure their were no blockages. I then put a rag under the fuel filter housing outlet and left the fuel line off and cranked the engine. Fuel did come out but just not at a high pressure. I pulled the fuel rail so I could see the injectors and cranked the engine and very low levels of fuel are coming out of 2-3 of the injectors. It just doesn’t appear that the fuel filter is pushing the fuel at the pressure it should. Could the fuel pump be working but just not pushing the fuel at a high enough level? I’m stumped!
 
Reply
Old May 20, 2018 | 12:04 PM
  #11  
DamnCampers's Avatar
DamnCampers
3rd Gear
Joined: Nov 2017
Posts: 172
Likes: 16
From: Southern California
When you did the fuel pump did you do the fuel filter? If not, do you know the last time the fuel filter was replaced?

If you haven't done the fuel filter that might be worth checking and replacing before you consider replacing the pump again. They get rather dirty but are easy enough to get to for replacement.
 
Reply
Old May 20, 2018 | 12:51 PM
  #12  
Etmil35's Avatar
Etmil35
Thread Starter
|
1st Gear
5 Year Member
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by DamnCampers
When you did the fuel pump did you do the fuel filter? If not, do you know the last time the fuel filter was replaced?

If you haven't done the fuel filter that might be worth checking and replacing before you consider replacing the pump again. They get rather dirty but are easy enough to get to for replacement.
Thanks for your reply. To answer your question, yes, I replaced the entire fuel filter and fuel filter assembly when I replaced the fuel pump.
 
Reply
Old May 23, 2018 | 07:55 PM
  #13  
Etmil35's Avatar
Etmil35
Thread Starter
|
1st Gear
5 Year Member
Joined: Jul 2017
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
To close this issue, when I pulled the fuel pump out, the plastic fuel line that runs from the fuel pump to the fuel filter assembly had broken in half. Absolutely makes sense now why I could hear the fuel pump running but it wasn’t getting no fuel.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
timcluff
Stock Problems/Issues
4
May 21, 2018 03:18 PM
kpmcl
Stock Problems/Issues
1
Feb 23, 2016 09:16 AM
Tragesaurusrex
Stock Problems/Issues
3
Nov 9, 2011 12:22 PM
Cenobia
Stock Problems/Issues
11
Sep 26, 2011 04:25 PM
WindPower
R56 :: Hatch Talk (2007+)
103
Mar 27, 2008 12:32 PM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:48 AM.