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Old Aug 16, 2016 | 10:50 AM
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The DME doesn't matter to the engine, but does to the rest of the car.

Did you fully install the engine, ground straps and all? Missing any of your ground points can leave you with a no start situation.

What happens when you attempt to start it?
 
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Old Aug 16, 2016 | 04:50 PM
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What does it do when you attempt to start it? Are you using the ecu that came with the engine or the original ECU that came with the car?
It acts like a old flooded engine. It try's to start, but just doesn't get it. ECU is from my car.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2016 | 04:56 PM
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What happens when you attempt to start it?
It turns over just fine, but acts like its flooded which it cant be. I even sprayed starting fluid in to the intake side of the intercooler. No trouble codes are showing. It did start for a second ,but as soon as I gave it some gas it died. Could it not be getting any air?
 
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Old Aug 16, 2016 | 08:06 PM
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It turns over just fine, but acts like its flooded which it cant be. I even sprayed starting fluid in to the intake side of the intercooler. No trouble codes are showing. It did start for a second ,but as soon as I gave it some gas it died. Could it not be getting any air?
I would double check the plug/wiring harness to the throttle body.

I forgot to plug that in when working on my car one time and it sputtered but wouldn't run. I think it threw codes.

If that checks out ok, and it runs on starting fluid, I'd tend to think its not getting gas. Either a bad fuel pump, or something not right with the fuel injectors and their wiring.
 
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Old Aug 16, 2016 | 09:54 PM
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I'll check it tomorrow . I can't get it to start with starting fluid being by myself. I spray it in and jump in the car and get nothing it pops back in to the intake
 
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Old Aug 16, 2016 | 10:02 PM
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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 05:20 AM
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Would trying another ecu matter? A local junk yard has some.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 06:49 AM
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You need to have a quality scan tool to do a temporary DME substitution, otherwise you need to have the DME aligned with the EWS, BCM.

Have you checked fuel pressure yet? If it runs on starting fluid but doesn't stay running on its own chances are that you need a fuel pump.

You also need to have those intercooler clamps clamped down, even at idle that will cause a large vacuum leak. Stupid question, but do you have the MAP sensors in the correct locations? Mixing them up will result in a horribly running car, potentially even no start.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 07:51 AM
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All sesors are connected where they should be. Fuel pressure is 57 psi. I can't get it going with starting fluid When you DME you mean the ECU? I had a feeling the inter cooler clamps being loose would come up. Lol I was squirting the starting fluid in there.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 12:46 PM
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So getting a ecu from the junk yard wont start the engine.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 01:14 PM
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So getting a ecu from the junk yard wont start the engine.
Not unless you can align the DME (engine computer) and EWS (immobilizer) modules, which can only be done as a trial substitution with a dealer level tech tool.
 
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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 01:35 PM
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Dang no point in buying a different ECU then. I've read some guys taking the chip out of one ECU to another, but who knows if that works
 
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Old Aug 17, 2016 | 08:42 PM
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I put some new spark plugs in it today. I get the same results. Try's to start. It did run on its own for less then a minute.

Does anybody know how to use INPA on a mini.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2016 | 06:38 AM
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I put some new spark plugs in it today. I get the same results. Try's to start. It did run on its own for less then a minute.

Does anybody know how to use INPA on a mini.
Your ambient temp sensor fault is most likely due to it not being plugged in if the car is in service mode.

The freeze frame you have shows 0 RPM, but are creating manifold vacuum. Was the car running at the point you took this freeze frame? If so you need to start looking into things like the crank sensor and cam sensor, crank sensor will keep the car from starting, and a cam sensor will cause hard starts and or poor performance.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2016 | 06:51 AM
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Can the crank and cam sensors be bad if no codes are thrown. Yea the air temp is unhooked. I do have a new crank sensor, but haven't tried it.
 
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Old Aug 18, 2016 | 05:56 PM
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The car started briefly today. I replaced the camshaft sensor. When it was running it had a ticking noise and a squeaking noise. It isn't running right that's for sure.
 

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Old Oct 9, 2016 | 09:23 AM
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I finally have my mini running after rebuilding the original engine. I forgot how these mini's are to drive. My first one was a 03 base cooper with a cvt. The cooper s with a 6 speed is a whole different animal. https://www.facebook.com/jeff.lewis.357/videos/10208023392443402/ Lifters are little noisy.
 
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