Stock Problems/Issues Discussions related to warranty related issues and repairs, or other problems with the OEM parts and software for MINI Cooper (R50), Cabrio (R52), and Cooper S (R53) MINIs.

Supercharger Service at 98,000 Miles?

  #1  
Old 02-13-2015, 10:35 AM
MiniSuperCooper's Avatar
MiniSuperCooper
MiniSuperCooper is offline
4th Gear
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Oklahoma City
Posts: 471
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Supercharger Service at 98,000 Miles?

Hello,

Long story short, we're having to buy a new engine for our 2006 MCS. The MINI is at 98,000, and I was thinking since the engine will be out and the supercharger will be swapped anyway, it would be a good time to service it and possibly install one of the rechargers from Imperial MINI. However, I've been told by a mechanic (one of the people I'm considering for the job of replacing the engine) that this could cause the supercharger to fail due to the change in fluid viscosity. In other words, the new fluid would be to thick for the supercharger to work properly, since it has been running on old thin fluid (or in the case of most superchargers this ones age, no oil at all). He said I'm better off waiting until mine fails…at which point I'll have to pay an astronomical price to have a new one installed. (Did I mention I'm having an engine installed?! $$$$$$$$)

Is there any truth to this? Are there any mechanically inclined individuals that have input? Thank you!!!
 

Last edited by MiniSuperCooper; 02-13-2015 at 12:37 PM.
  #2  
Old 02-13-2015, 11:15 AM
JAB 67's Avatar
JAB 67
JAB 67 is offline
6th Gear
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Fairfax, VA
Posts: 2,658
Likes: 0
Received 57 Likes on 50 Posts
S/c

Originally Posted by MiniSuperCooper
Hello,

Long story short, we're having to buy a new engine for our 2006 MCS. The MINI is at 98,000, and I was thinking since the engine will be out and the supercharger will be swapped anyway, it would be a good time to service it and possibly install one of the rechargers from Imperial MINI. However, I've been told by a mechanic (one of the people I'm considering for the job of replacing the engine) that this could cause the supercharger to fail due to the change in fluid viscosity. In other words, the new fluid would be to thick for the supercharger to work properly, since it has be running on old thin fluid (or in the case of most superchargers this ones age, no oil at all). He said I'm better off waiting until mine fails…at which point I'll have to pay an astronomical price to have a new one installed. (Did I mention I'm having an engine installed?! $$$$$$$$)

Is there any truth to this? Are there any mechanically inclined individuals that have input? Thank you!!!
Makes no sense at all.
 
  #3  
Old 02-13-2015, 11:44 AM
Vkng's Avatar
Vkng
Vkng is offline
2nd Gear
Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 99
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Find a new mechanic.
 
  #4  
Old 02-13-2015, 12:24 PM
RDY4TKF's Avatar
RDY4TKF
RDY4TKF is offline
4th Gear
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Aurora, IL
Posts: 352
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
I have kind of heard the same thing in regards to a transmission that has a lot of miles and has never been serviced. Many people on NAM do the supercharger oil change without any problems afterwards. I would change the oil especially if you are having an engine installed.
 
  #5  
Old 02-13-2015, 12:28 PM
ZippyNH's Avatar
ZippyNH
ZippyNH is offline
6th Gear
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Southern NH
Posts: 12,605
Likes: 0
Received 32 Likes on 32 Posts
Yup...get a new mechanic...
Changing the oil in a sc is a dubious $$ saver, but to say it will cause failure...ouch!!
If you use the right oil...no issues...its the oil that is put in when it is rebuilt...
 
  #6  
Old 02-13-2015, 12:33 PM
ZippyNH's Avatar
ZippyNH
ZippyNH is offline
6th Gear
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Southern NH
Posts: 12,605
Likes: 0
Received 32 Likes on 32 Posts
P.S.
A REBULT SC, a quality unit is about $800-1000 plus install....
Adding lube is only a stop gap fix if the seals are letting the oil leak out...
So the add the oil adder...IMO kind of a waste...if the seals are bad, it NEEDS TO BE REBUILT.
And if you are paying for a motor swap...it should be about $40 in oil, and a couple seals/gaskets to change or lube a sc....so almost free...the sc is usually off for a water pump swap...possible to leave it in place...but the "story" you are getting told is pure BS....
I might be very nervous that the shop you are talking to is bending you over.....no vasoline or lube, and...er..well...you fill in the blanks...
How much for a motor change?
 
  #7  
Old 02-13-2015, 12:40 PM
MiniSuperCooper's Avatar
MiniSuperCooper
MiniSuperCooper is offline
4th Gear
Thread Starter
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Oklahoma City
Posts: 471
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Thank you for the comments. The dealer estimated it at $7850.00, and the mechanic's estimate is $7,200.00.
 
  #8  
Old 02-13-2015, 12:54 PM
ZippyNH's Avatar
ZippyNH
ZippyNH is offline
6th Gear
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Southern NH
Posts: 12,605
Likes: 0
Received 32 Likes on 32 Posts
Are you 100% sure you want to go new?! Investing 90% of the value of a car with a new motor is an iffy prospect in most cases....everything else is still aging and rusting...
A quality used motor with a warrenty might make more sense...about $2500-3500, plus install...
The value of a car with a new motor will not go up much...so it is worth more to you then anybody, and if it was wrecked the day after the motor is installed, you are going to take a big loss...
Most shops can source a motor with similar or slightly lower miles...limiting your risks unless you plan on keeping the car forever, and sholder the risks of a full loss...
 
  #9  
Old 02-19-2015, 04:27 PM
Kahnfucious's Avatar
Kahnfucious
Kahnfucious is offline
5th Gear
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 909
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by MiniSuperCooper
Thank you for the comments. The dealer estimated it at $7850.00, and the mechanic's estimate is $7,200.00.
You would go with a non dealer shop for $600?? That seems kind if penny wise pound foolish to me. Is the shop a well known mini independent shop or some random shop? With mini at least it would be warrantied nation wide. My dealer emails me 10% off coupons all the time...that would make up the gap very fast.

Call the dealer and ask them to match if you want to do this but to zippy's note seems like too much to spend.
 
  #10  
Old 02-19-2015, 04:45 PM
quikmni's Avatar
quikmni
quikmni is offline
6th Gear
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Orcutt, CA
Posts: 2,486
Likes: 0
Received 6 Likes on 6 Posts
I am with Zippy.
That is a lot to spend for a new motor especially without a new supercharger/water pump. Maybe a used motor or rebuilt motor would be a better option.
I would replace the supercharger and water pump with new. Not just change the oil. You can get the whole supercharger/water pump/gasket kit for $1600.
http://www.waymotorworks.com/superch...e-r52-r53.html
Even cheaper if you get the rebuilt supercharger, which would be a great option.
 
  #11  
Old 02-20-2015, 05:52 AM
Mike87's Avatar
Mike87
Mike87 is offline
3rd Gear
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Hauser, ID
Posts: 269
Received 28 Likes on 23 Posts
I recently serviced my supercharger with 83K on it. There was still oil in it, but I changed it anyway and it is working great!

Find a new mechanic.
 
  #12  
Old 02-20-2015, 05:55 AM
buzzsaw's Avatar
buzzsaw
buzzsaw is offline
6th Gear
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 1,835
Received 42 Likes on 32 Posts
What's wrong with the engine? Methinks I would shop around for second,third maybe fourth opinions.
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Toolman
R50/R53 :: Hatch Talk (2002-2006)
8
01-20-2016 06:50 AM
tr3y003
1st Gear
11
10-22-2015 10:48 AM
gmonde
MINIs & Minis for Sale
1
09-08-2015 06:37 AM
JPMontes3
R50/R53 :: Hatch Talk (2002-2006)
3
08-23-2015 01:26 AM
Powershift
MINIs & Minis for Sale
1
08-16-2015 05:14 PM


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Quick Reply: Supercharger Service at 98,000 Miles?



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 02:21 PM.