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Old 01-11-2014, 12:01 PM
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Front Wheel Bearing Won't Come Off Axle

Have read through most of the wheel bearing and ABS sensor threads. Seems most people have not encountered an issue with "pushing" the axle through the bearing. I have successfully removed the wheel, caliper, hub nut, rotor, ABS sensor and unbolted the bearing carrier from the spindle. At this point the bearing should come right off. It appears the bearing is seized to the inner bearing (at the splines?.) I have tried hitting it with a hammer and used a three arm puller. NO GO!

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Old 01-11-2014, 12:59 PM
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not sure I'm following you

but you do realize the hub is removed and replaced as a unit?
 
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Recently replaced my wheel hubs and had to pressed it out. Place a 1"-2" spacer (I use a spare socket and metal plate) behind the hub, then use the lug bolt and thread it through one of the hub hole onto the spacer. Slowly tighten up the lug bolt and it will start pressing the hub out from the wheel knuckle, and repeat on the other hole.

Make sure you go with good quality wheel bearing hubs. Hopefully this helps you out and good luck.
 
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Originally Posted by mini_rover
...I have tried hitting it with a hammer and used a three arm puller....Any tips?
Put the bolts back on a couple of turns, 3-4, and hit them from the back. You should be using new bolts anyway.

That’s the way I got mine done.

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Old 01-12-2014, 06:06 AM
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Mine was so badly seized that a puller didn't work. However, a sledge hammer ad penetrating oil seemed to do the trick. The only issue with that is the axle was FUBAR. Had to get a new one.

Put a small amount of antiseize on the splines (not the threads) of the axle when reassembling.
 
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Old 01-12-2014, 06:55 AM
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I stuck with the puller method (same principle as using the lug bots.) I added a little penetrating oil, beer and friend who wasn't afraid to use a bigger hammer on someone else car. Pounded on the center bolt of the puller and around the hub. Eventually it came off, 4 hours later.

On recommendations elsewhere on the forum I purchased a kit from ECS. Will be putting some anti-seize on the splines upon reassembly.

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The noted issue was with the passenger side. The driver's side axle slipped right out of the hub bearing with finger pressure.

Steering wheel shimmy and howl are gone. Still have ABS, Traction and TSP lights coming on shortly after driving. I had hoped cleaning the front sensors and replacing the bearings would have resolved this issue. Will check the back and look to replace the a sensor.
 
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Originally Posted by mini_rover
I stuck with the puller method (same principle as using the lug bots.)...
For those that are going to do this in the future.

Not the lug bolts. The hub comes off in one piece with the bearing. Four bolts hold it on from the back.

A lot of PB Blaster on the shaft splines, loosen the four bolts on the back and hit them hard. Mine came off easily that way.

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Old 01-13-2014, 05:08 PM
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Rich,

I did read your first post. I considered your method. It is pretty tight to be able to hit the bolts on the backside to get any real force to the bolts. Also, the shaft is relatively free to move outward the distance of the loose bolts and there is no good method to hold it in place at the same time you are hitting the bolts.

I guess it really all depends how stuck the axle is. Even after cleaning it up it was still hard to get the new bearing assembly back onto the shaft. Unlike the driver's side which was effortless on and off.

ntn recommended using the lug bolts to get the bearing assembly free of the spindle/knuckle versus free of the axle.
 
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Dy-NO-Mite!!!!
 
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If you have a shop press you can remove the hub from the car and press out the axle. That's typically a last resort though.
 
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