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Old Dec 26, 2012 | 08:21 AM
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AC and low speed fan issues.

Hi all,

I've a couple of questions regarding the working of the ac and low/hi speed fans. I read the low speed fan thread and saw the resistor fix. Car is a 2005 cooper s.

What I've noticed is when I park the car after a drive the fan runs on for about 5 mins, it's fairly loud so I presume it's the high speed fan that's running?

When I turn on the ac the low speed fan doesn't run, I presume it's supposed to run continuous while the ac is on? The high speed kicks in after about 2 mins, runs for a few seconds then shuts off, this is repeated while the ac is on.
I looked at he ac compressor, when I turned on the ac the clutch engaged and the compressor started to turn, again I presume the ac compressor is ok then?

So am I correct in saying the low speed fan resistor is shot? I want to confirm the fan is fixed before I get someone to look at the ac.

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Old Dec 26, 2012 | 02:31 PM
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Yes, this is how mine acted when the low speed fan resistor was dead.
If the ac cools, then I'd say the compressor is ok.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2012 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by cristo
Yes, this is how mine acted when the low speed fan resistor was dead.
If the ac cools, then I'd say the compressor is ok.
Thanks for the reply.

There is no cool air from the ac, I need to get that checked but hopefully it just needs to be recharged.

I'll order the resistor to fix the low speed fan then tackle the ac issue.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2012 | 01:25 AM
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Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the progression seems to be (as I've read, and in my case): low speed fan dies, AC compressor overheats due to no airflow at low speeds and subsequently dies.
Can't hurt to check the charge, but odds are it's toast. On the positive side, if you're handy you can replace it for ~$350 vs. the dealer $1,200 standard quote.

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ome-tests.html
 
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Old Dec 27, 2012 | 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric_Rowland
Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the progression seems to be (as I've read, and in my case): low speed fan dies, AC compressor overheats due to no airflow at low speeds and subsequently dies.
Can't hurt to check the charge, but odds are it's toast. On the positive side, if you're handy you can replace it for ~$350 vs. the dealer $1,200 standard quote.

https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ome-tests.html
Thanks Eric, hopefully the compressor is ok. It does engage and spin when the ac is turned on so I take it that means the clutch and coil are ok?

First off I need to fix the low speed fan.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2012 | 04:27 AM
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It is an easy check to be sure that the low speed fan is working or not. On a '05 there is a plug net to the drivers side bonnet latch. Unplug the connector and get yourself some test leads. The brown wire is the ground and connect one of your leads to the negative turminal of the battery. Then the other lead from the positive turminal touch to one of the other wires from the plug then the other. One is the high speed and the other is the low speed. If both result in the fan operating you may have a blown fuse.
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Old Dec 27, 2012 | 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Neil_Ireland
Thanks Eric, hopefully the compressor is ok. It does engage and spin when the ac is turned on so I take it that means the clutch and coil are ok?

First off I need to fix the low speed fan.
Yep, clutch and coil are ok, but apparently the internals 'die'. Not sure of the failure mode, aka what broke.
Note that you need to put the car into service mode to get the new fan in (or you can try one of the external resistor options), and that makes it easier to R&R the compressor. So I'd have the compressor checked first rather than pulling the fan, then later pulling the compressor (which I did without placing the car in service mode - a bit tough, but preferable for me.)
 
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Old Dec 27, 2012 | 11:25 AM
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Thanks for the advice guys, lots for me to do
 
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Old Dec 28, 2012 | 05:59 AM
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It is an easy check to be sure that the low speed fan is working or not. On a '05 there is a plug net to the drivers side bonnet latch. Unplug the connector and get yourself some test leads. The brown wire is the ground and connect one of your leads to the negative turminal of the battery. Then the other lead from the positive turminal touch to one of the other wires from the plug then the other. One is the high speed and the other is the low speed. If both result in the fan operating you may have a blown fuse.
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Today I used a spare battery and some leads to check the low and high speed fans. Hi speed is working, low speed is dead. Time for the resistor fix, store over here in Ireland doesn't open until the 2nd of January
 
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Old Dec 28, 2012 | 06:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Neil_Ireland
Today I used a spare battery and some leads to check the low and high speed fans. Hi speed is working, low speed is dead. Time for the resistor fix, store over here in Ireland doesn't open until the 2nd of January
You'll be fine until then
 
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Old Dec 28, 2012 | 09:46 AM
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You'll be fine until then
+1 - Once the AC has died, the only consequence of the low speed resistor failure is that in traffic it will heat up to the high speed temp trigger.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2013 | 04:25 AM
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So today I fitted the low speed resistor, wired it to the two red wires on the fan side. I mounted the 33r 100w resistor to the engine mount as done in the fan fix thread.

I started the engine and turned on the ac, no low speed fan running
When should it kick in? The high speed kicked in every so often for a few seconds.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2013 | 04:51 AM
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Check your low speed resistor. Might be dead. A/C is supposed to trigger low in a few secs once enough pressure builds up.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2013 | 04:54 AM
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By 33r do you mean a 33 ohm or a 0.33 ohm resistor?

If you place a wire jumper across the resistor does the fan come on?
 
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Old Jan 4, 2013 | 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by minsanity
Check your low speed resistor. Might be dead. A/C is supposed to trigger low in a few secs once enough pressure builds up.
The low speed resistor is dead that's why I've added the external resistor.

Originally Posted by cristo
By 33r do you mean a 33 ohm or a 0.33 ohm resistor?

If you place a wire jumper across the resistor does the fan come on?
Looks like I was sent the wrong resistor , they sent a 33ohm instead of a 0.33 ohm.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2013 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Neil_Ireland
Looks like I was sent the wrong resistor , they sent a 33ohm instead of a 0.33 ohm.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2013 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Neil_Ireland
Looks like I was sent the wrong resistor , they sent a 33ohm instead of a 0.33 ohm.
That's going to make for a VERY low speed fan.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2013 | 04:43 PM
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Try bypassing the low by wires w/o resistor. That's what some of us did.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2013 | 02:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric_Rowland
That's going to make for a VERY low speed fan.
Yep, I disconnected it until the new one arrives.
 
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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 05:16 AM
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The correct 0.33 ohm resistor was delivered today and I fitted it, low speed fan is now working 100%, it runs when the ac is turned on.

On a side note the ac is also blowing cold now so another issue fixed.

Thanks for the help and advice guys
 

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Old Jan 7, 2013 | 07:35 AM
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Great to hear!
 
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