Can you run JCW shift **** in stock class (autoX)? One can order the car with JCW shift **** as an option. However, I believe other JCW options like the tuning kit and coilovers obviously aren't allowed in G-stock.

 

Not legal. Yes you can order it. but notice the disclaimer when you get to that section of the build options... "price does not include dealer installation charges"

 

Nope - not legal. Like Motoring said, the JCW shift **** is a dealer-installed option, even when it's part of the original order, so it's not Stock-legal.

When I was in Stock class, I took off my Whalen shifter and replaced it with the stock one before each event. Considering I usually only shift once during the entire run, the Whalen probably wasn't providing any significant benefit, but we don't get to pick and choose the rules we follow.

 

While not legal, it's also not likely to even be noticed unless you're running against someone supremely ****-retentive.

 

he asked whether it was legal. not whether it was nit-picky.

In our cars the shift **** makes very little difference. In some other cars it can be a significant perfomance improvment.

 

Wow, SCCA rules are really black and white. I suppose that is a good thing, but sheeesh, a SHIFT ****?

REALLY?

That's insane.

 

Where do you draw the line? the SCCA rules follow the precept "if it doesn't say you can, You Can't"

there are lots of little things that don't make a lot of difference. Most will be overlooked at a local event, but not at the national level stuff.

 

I think the SCCA rules are probably as fair/comprehensive as they can be without having to be several thousand pages long. Listing what you *can* do and expressly making everything else off-limits is probably the simplest way to accomplish their goals.

It does lead to some silliness though, like the Nationals cars that still have the big factory cupholders in them because they can't be removed under Stock class rules.

The only rule I've found so far that makes absolutely *zero* sense to me across the board is the rule that you can't "de-badge" your car in Stock class. I can't think of a single car that gains *any* kind of performance benefit from removing the factory badges, but I guess that's why I'm not on the Rules board.

 

I agree. If not, the rule book would have way more pages.

I tried the JCW **** for daily driving.. and stock **** feels better, at least to me. So it works out anyways.

One rule in stock class I don't agree with though is allowing change/removal of front sway bar. I say leave the front bar stock too.

 

Try it you might like it. It is the easiest way to tune out under steer.

 

Front sway bar change is a very good option if you can find a smaller bar for the MINI and don't mind the labor to install it.

Usually cars are limited with what will be available. Fortunately the MINI has options. Both larger and smaller diameter bars are possible.

For Shift *****- illegal for stock classes.

However depending on your region of SCCA, and how competitive you are.

If you talk to your competitors and ask them, you might be able to still run in stock class (not if you are beating everyone else) and keep your shift **** mod. If no one protests you then you are fine but under the rules it is not allowed and technically will bump you out of stock classes.

The rules are simple and in place to offer as much equality for the respective classes as is possible given the great variety of options.

A painted stock shift **** would be fine- cosmetic only.

 

Good to know, was thinking of replacing mine with a JCW **** too.

 

The front sway bar allowance is Really old, from the early days of the sport. It originated as a safety allowance, and not a performance allowance. Most of the regular cars of the 50's and 60's did not have swaybars, and were prone to rolling over in agressive manuevers, adding a front bar tamed the body roll. Notice the allowance says addition or substitution...

 

In the 00's the stock class rules Re: anti-roll bars offer a significant chassis tuning advantage to RWD vehicles, as adding a front bar or increasing bar size would appear to have fewer trade-offs vs. a FWD car with a smaller, disconnected, or removed front bar.

 

some FWD cars took great advantage of a much larger front bar, notably the first and second gen Rabbits/GTIs. I also had good success with a larger bar on my MC when we ran on Concrete at Forbes.