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Timing Chain Kit MINI R56 N18 2012 Manual COOPER S

Hey friends,

I am considering doing Timing for my MINI R56 N18 2012 MANUAL COOPER S.
I am only interested in an original MINI / PSA Timing kit (genuine parts).
Can I purchase an original PSA kit? Has anyone tried it?

As far as I understand, the parts are the same and I found the serial numbers in the link below:

https://www.neobrothers.co.uk/car-pa...16-n18-ep3-ep6

BTW, The reason I'm considering going for PSA is because it's more accessible in my area.
I currently have 70,000 miles. Do you think this is the right time to do timing? Or is it early? thoughts.

Many thanks in advance
 
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What is the service history of the car? How often do you perform oil changes? I only ask because my car has 187k miles and still original timing chain and gear. I did replace the tensioner at ~135k miles just because. I bought the car with 34k miles, and I have changed the oil every 5000 miles since purchased.
 
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What is the service history of the car? How often do you perform oil changes? I only ask because my car has 187k miles and still original timing chain and gear. I did replace the tensioner at ~135k miles just because. I bought the car with 34k miles, and I have changed the oil every 5000 miles since purchased.
Interesting. According to what I read. The manufacturer's recommendation is to do it every 100K miles. My car is maintained. Oil change every 6000K+-. Everything is original. Timing chain has never been replaced. I think it's time to do it. Preventive Maintenance.
 
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FCP Euro has kits with all factory parts for guides etc but chain is IWIS not a cheap kit about 2 x their other aftermarket kits
 
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I found a good site that includes BMW/MINI and original PSA *part numbers*. www.auto-ricambi.eu.
The prices of original PSA are half as cheap and it is the same product with the same quality control (unlike OEM).
The summaries of the main parts of the timing are:
0816J2
081841
081833
081840
0829G3
 
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Originally Posted by MINIGTS
Hey friends,

I am considering doing Timing for my MINI R56 N18 2012 MANUAL COOPER S.
I am only interested in an original MINI / PSA Timing kit (genuine parts).
Can I purchase an original PSA kit? Has anyone tried it?

As far as I understand, the parts are the same and I found the serial numbers in the link below:

https://www.neobrothers.co.uk/car-pa...16-n18-ep3-ep6

BTW, The reason I'm considering going for PSA is because it's more accessible in my area.
I currently have 70,000 miles. Do you think this is the right time to do timing? Or is it early? thoughts.

Many thanks in advance
What are you reading that says the timing chain should be replaced at X miles? I don't see anything in BMW TIS that specifies a maintenance interval for the timing chain. The timing chain I replaced was on my '07 N12 engine (I was also performing a preventive maintenance task, the engine was fine with no issues). When I measured the new and old chains (10 links under tension) I found the wear on the old chain was only .008", well within the ability of the tensioner to take up the slack for a minimum amount of chain wear. Oil was changed every 7500 miles. Sill I was glad I did it because the plastic timing chain guides did have some broken pieces.

You know PSA doesn't making their own timing chains and guides right? INA, VIACO, iwis, and Melling were all OEM suppliers of timing components. All you're paying for when you buy a PSA kit is the PSA packaging.
 
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What are you reading that says the timing chain should be replaced at X miles? I don't see anything in BMW TIS that specifies a maintenance interval for the timing chain. The timing chain I replaced was on my '07 N12 engine (I was also performing a preventive maintenance task, the engine was fine with no issues). When I measured the new and old chains (10 links under tension) I found the wear on the old chain was only .008", well within the ability of the tensioner to take up the slack for a minimum amount of chain wear. Oil was changed every 7500 miles. Sill I was glad I did it because the plastic timing chain guides did have some broken pieces.

You know PSA doesn't making their own timing chains and guides right? INA, VIACO, iwis, and Melling were all OEM suppliers of timing components. All you're paying for when you buy a PSA kit is the PSA packaging.
Hi, I know.

But you can trust the quality level more. A replacement part from the same manufacturer (PSA/MINI) does not always work the same tests. So it is not correct to say that you only pay for the box. There are parts I wouldn't take a chance on. Regarding margin. I don't remember where I read it. But it's around 100k miles.
Better before because the plastic parts tend to break and then the damage could be catastrophic...

BTW, it seems to me that I have found most of the PSA parts that fit the N18 1:1..
For your review-
0816J2
081841
081833
081840
0829G3
1614085980
082027
082028
082026 x2
0513C8 9833702580
 
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You can trust the quality level more? That's pure anecdotal.


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You can trust the quality level more? That's pure anecdotal.


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You can't trust anything Lol
 
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I would buy the FCP kit and not think twice. Hell, I'd probably consider whatever is on rockauto because it's most likely fine too.
It's really not worth the level of thought this is getting.
 
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We have the kit here and this is the go to, when I do mine that's what I am using. Well in n14 version

https://www.ecstuning.com/b-assemble...1311439853kt2/

 
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