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Old Feb 17, 2014 | 04:44 PM
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Justa reliability ?

I read all these horror stories about the R56S and I guess I'm glad I sold ours and got a 135i instead

now that I have a longer commute I need a daily driver, 100 miles a day makes me look at picking up a r56 justa I don't want to put miles on the 135i or jeep.

Does the justa "ep6" ? have these reliability issues too? There is so much focus on the n14/n18 it's hard to determine what are shared issues.

I'm considering 08-13 anything on the justa that changed in 11?

I would get another S, but only if there are "bulletproof" mods that fix the shortfalls, and I do not think there are just yet, 26k miles a year is quite a bit on a turbo with "known" issues, one DI bmw in the garage is enough I think.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2014 | 07:31 PM
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We have an R55 justa with 55,000. From what I'm seeing the N12 engine in the justa cooper is a reliable lump. I would say go for it.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2014 | 05:16 AM
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no timing chain/tensioner issues with the justa ?
 
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Old Feb 18, 2014 | 05:26 AM
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I'm on my third Justa. The first was a 2006 R50, the second was a 2010 R56, and I now have a 2012 Countryman. All have been very reliable, and a blast to drive. The issues with carbon build-up, high pressure fuel pumps, timing chain guides/tensioners, and turbo oil line leaks are all related to the S models.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2014 | 05:38 AM
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23k trouble free miles on a 2013 Justa , go for it. I also do about 25k miles a year.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2014 | 05:59 AM
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2009 r56 with 72000 miles. Just recently replaced a leaking coolant sensor. Other than that, no issues. N12 engines do not have the issues that plague the other engines.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2014 | 06:39 AM
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'09 R56 Cooper Automatic here. Got it @13k miles, now 60k. Dead reliable. I have done all recommended maintenance plus oil changes every 5k miles. I have not modified the running bits in any way. Comparing to other cars and trucks I've owned - this car has been the most trouble free for its milage and age plus has provided by far the most smiles.

Front brakes @ 25k, fronts and rears @ 50k.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2014 | 07:44 AM
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2007 R56 here. I had a problem with the climate control right after delivery which was fixed under warranty. At 60K miles I had a problem with the water pump thermostat - which did not strand me. Overall I consider mine to be quite reliable. Now at 74K miles. Speculation on my part, but I believe the engine is very sensitive to maintaining oil level at the full mark to reduce timing chain/tensioner issues.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2014 | 02:20 PM
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you all think these justa's will go 250-300k like bmw I6's do? I'll be doing 25k miles a year that racks up fast
 
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Old Feb 18, 2014 | 02:47 PM
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I have an 08 R56 Justa I bought with 28,000 from original owner. I now have 61k plus and have only done brakes, plugs and standard maintenance every 5,000. I've had it a year and a half and we've driven it all over the US. Average 35 mpg mostly with my foot in it. Premium gas is a must for me. Wife has a 07 R52 Justa and there is no comparison as far as MPG or the ability to pass someone. The 5 speed compared to the 6 is not desirable for me as well. Luckily she only drives hers to work and she loves it. Great little vehicles and will prolly drive these two till they drop.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2014 | 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by ASKtheteach
I'm on my third Justa. The first was a 2006 R50, the second was a 2010 R56, and I now have a 2012 Countryman. All have been very reliable, and a blast to drive. The issues with carbon build-up, high pressure fuel pumps, timing chain guides/tensioners, and turbo oil line leaks are all related to the S models.

I would also add they don't have the high heat built up under the hood. With less power, the stress and wear rate on the engine and transmission is considerably lower. I totally agree they are a blast to drive and I have also owned 2007 MCS.


Morris, 2011 MC, PW/B MT
 
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Old Feb 18, 2014 | 02:54 PM
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worst issue i think i've had on mine so far was a small oil leak at the front crankshaft seal. that was fixed for less than $200 f i recall. After that , the vanos solenoid was starting to fail so i was popping codes. i forget the cost of that. In any case, i'm at 64k and yet to have a full on break down type issue, always small things that weren't critical.(knock on wood)
 
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Old Feb 18, 2014 | 02:57 PM
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bmw also suffer from vanos sticking, the fix is teflon seals instead of OEM, I have to put them in our e39 next month it's starting to act up and throw fault codes
 
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Old Feb 18, 2014 | 08:37 PM
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I believe we have heard of one timing chain problem in an R56 Justa, but that is far fewer than we hear of similar problems with the S.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2014 | 10:57 PM
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I'll trade you my 07 MC for your 135i.......what? No deal?


Seriously, thermostat housing on mine was replaced at 55k. Putting that many miles is bound to get expensive.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 05:35 PM
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I traded an r56s for the 135i, and it's not going anywhere
 
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Old Feb 19, 2014 | 06:30 PM
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I traded an r56s for the 135i, and it's not going anywhere
Did you get the JB4 for it yet?;-)
 
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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 03:14 AM
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nope it's had a reflash and that's it
 
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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 07:52 AM
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and i believe 2011 + has updated motor even for the justa
 
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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 08:06 AM
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I'm on my 3rd justa. 2009 coup, 2010 Conv, now 2013 roadster. No issues with any of them. Just normal maintenance.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 03:14 PM
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I think we are gonna look for a 2011+ CPU justa 6speed, soon as we close on the house
 
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Old Feb 20, 2014 | 05:13 PM
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2012 R56 justa, owned since new. 17k trouble free miles. I say go for it.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2014 | 10:27 AM
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i would get a 2011+ just for the revised bumper and taillights. My wife has a 08 auto justa with 49K. I think it requires more maintenance than every Japanese car I've owned, but typical for every European car I've owned.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2014 | 01:37 PM
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This was my first R56S, someone clipped us and spun us into the front of this truck, he did not see us and kept driving pushing us sideways down I285 until someone else passed him and flagged him down so he would pull over






 
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Old Feb 21, 2014 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mega72
This was my first R56S, someone clipped us and spun us into the front of this truck, he did not see us and kept driving pushing us sideways down I285 until someone else passed him and flagged him down so he would pull over
Hope you are all OK. Will the car be repaired or replaced? :-(
 
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