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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 12:40 PM
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I'm sorry to hear that. The clutch looks nightmarish to replace. Since you have other fun cars, why not trade your R56 for something just as fuel efficient but maybe less fun but more reliable? Even a base (non-si) Honda Civic costs the same in fuel, pretty fun to drive (and with suspension mods it's entering R56 territory) and are reliable and easy to fix. The down side is that you will lose the street cred, but who cares when you have at least 2 other cars? Also, Mazda3 with skyactiv motors are very nice. Even a 2 liter pulls nicely and gets very nice fuel economy (I used to own one).
it was pretty painful, the clutch was right down to the rivets too so changed just in time, took me a few days in the garage.

hell will freeze over before I own a civic, the s2000 is nice but I prefer a roof over my head.

I have 8 cars, the r56 mini is getting replaced with a diesel X5

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r53 mini S race car
540i/6
jeep wrangler
f150
two more E39's a wagon (528i) and a sedan (525i) selling the sedan as parts soon
 
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Old Feb 11, 2016 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by mega72
it was pretty painful, the clutch was right down to the rivets too so changed just in time, took me a few days in the garage.

hell will freeze over before I own a civic, the s2000 is nice but I prefer a roof over my head.

I have 8 cars, the r56 mini is getting replaced with a diesel X5

135i
r56 mini
r53 mini S race car
540i/6
jeep wrangler
f150
two more E39's a wagon (528i) and a sedan (525i) selling the sedan as parts soon
Sorry about my Civic suggestion, I didn't realize the street cred was still important to you.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2016 | 05:05 AM
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Sorry about my Civic suggestion, I didn't realize the street cred was still important to you.
Street cred ? Lol I drive cars that handle great. Except the 2 4x4 that are used when I have to
 
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Old Feb 12, 2016 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by mega72
Street cred ? Lol I drive cars that handle great. Except the 2 4x4 that are used when I have to
Lol sorry if I sounded a bit snarky, it's hard to get nuances online. I suggested less fun options because you mentioned cross shopping a Prius. Anyways, good luck with your choice.
 
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Old Feb 12, 2016 | 11:10 AM
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Here's what the clutch involves

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remove the subrame and steering stuff





you have to lower the drivers side of the engine so the trans will clear the frame rail to get this thing out, you can see how terrible I am at being cleanwhen changing the oilfilter




this is what you see from below, new clutch is installed


 
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Old Feb 12, 2016 | 02:17 PM
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85 k on my Justa Clubman and...

Update on my 2008 Clubman R55 with ye olde N12 engine, now with 85,000 miles.

I've replaced the thermostat housing, brakes, shocks, two batteries, tires and plugs. No complaints here.
My timing chain was getting too loose, so I did a preemptive replacement at 70,000, about a year after getting a new tensioner bolt. I also replaced my drive belt ('serpentine') then too, and it was shot!

She uses about a quart every 4000 miles and I do an oil change about every 5000, liking the Royal Purple for no particular reason.

I feel quite confident to go way beyond 100k with this luvly car.

 
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Old Mar 19, 2017 | 07:08 PM
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Have a 2011 R55 Clubman Justa since 2014 via CPO/Next with 35K, has been pretty reliable after 40K+ miles, currently at 75K. I usually get the synthetic oil + filter changed every 7,500-8k miles. Definitely recommend going with the N16 engine update with the 2011+ models as they are way better than the initial N12s. Have had no oil burn/use issues since we got her 3 years ago.

Here's a list of what's gone wrong all covered under the CPO warranty.
1) Thermostat sensor
2) Direct Ignition Coils
3) Spark Plugs
4) All fan/drive belts
5) Front & Rear rotors/pads
6) Oil pump solenoid wiring harness

Here's my out of pocket expenses totaling $1500, which is way cheaper than my previous out of warranty E46 ZHP which I owned for 6 years (hell I avg $1500-2500 a year on that car):
1) Wipers
2) Battery
3) A/T trans service
4) Oil changes
5) Tires
6) Alignment
7) Windshield
 

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Old Mar 20, 2017 | 05:27 AM
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I got rid of our R56 justa, all in all I give it a D for reliability I was not very happy with the radio going out and the clutch at 84k miles

I now have a pair of R53's one for track days and a JCW for autocross and sometimes work duty

the 540i is still going too, 225,000 miles now and more reliable than the R56 was
 
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Old Mar 20, 2017 | 08:45 PM
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I hit 162000 miles today. For the mileage, I cannot complain. Thermostat housing, spark plugs, oil cooler (under warranty), transmission at 150000, and recently AFR sensor and leak detection pump. I've done brakes and tires several times. I am in this car for the long haul. I have had far less repairs than other vehicles with this kind of mileage.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2017 | 12:01 PM
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Just about 80,000 on our 2008 justa clubman. It's been a good car so far, with only the jarvic 7 replacement & the heater/ac fan motor. Other than that just normal maintenance items. Oil changed every 5,000 miles & trans fluid changes every 20,000 to help preserve the autobox.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2017 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mega72
I got rid of our R56 justa, all in all I give it a D for reliability I was not very happy with the radio going out and the clutch at 84k miles

I now have a pair of R53's one for track days and a JCW for autocross and sometimes work duty

the 540i is still going too, 225,000 miles now and more reliable than the R56 was
Im curious, I totally get getting rid of it after all the reliability crap, but was there one particular thing that finally made you say enough is enough with it?

Strangely enough my highest milage car ever was a 1990 Pontiac Bonneville owned from 120K miles until 330+K, I say plus because thats when the odometer broke and started jiggling around., trans went a year and a half later and we scrapped it thereafter, went through two alternators, tires brakes and lots of oil but that was it. That was my 2nd car ever.
 
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Old Mar 23, 2017 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Ive's Mini
transmission at 150000
Auto? What was the reason?
 
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Old Mar 23, 2017 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mega72
bmw also suffer from vanos sticking, the fix is teflon seals instead of OEM, I have to put them in our e39 next month it's starting to act up and throw fault codes
Mmm... Vanos clatter. It was said that on the M62 engine one would start to hear it at 70k miles. Sure enough on my parents e38 740iL we started hearing vanos clatter just as it rolled 70k miles. At 114k miles now it sounds like a diesel at idle.

My e39 M5 also had proper vanos clatter, at idle it sounded like a very refined tractor.
 
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Old Mar 26, 2017 | 02:53 PM
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My Justa is still going strong at 142K+ miles. The following parts have been replaced (for the first time, as a preventive measure) in the last 2K miles: timing belt, oxygen sensor, water pump and pulley, drive belt tensioner, drive belt friction gear, collant reservoir. Nothing has failed me and left me stranded. There is a slow leak from the rear main seal which I will deal with in a month or two. My stock clutch is still good but my mechanic recommended getting it done at the same time as the rear main seal job.

It has been quite a work horse hence the exceptionally high mileage and minimal market value. I recently leased a CX-3 as a second car but I kept coming back to the MINI. While shopping for a second car, I looked for one that is as close to the MINI as possible. For me, the Justa has been a very reliable car. Worn or aged parts are expected to be replaced. The cost is manageable when labor is performed by a trustworthy independent mechanic. I wouldn't want to own/drive a Corolla/Camry no matter how reliable and gas-saving they are.
 
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Old May 23, 2017 | 02:32 PM
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100k Report R-55 Justa Clubman

Well, I've arrived at the 100000 plateau. Just as I do so my front left wheel bearing is pronounced shot. That's good in a way since I was blaming my new tires for the noise; but it's almost $500 to replace the unit.
The tranny continues to emit suspicious rattles too...
I've had my first misfires just diagnosed as one of my coils (to cylinder 2) going bad ($120).
I already replaced ball joints and tie rods. Apparently there's a price to pay for consistent hard cornering :-(
It burns a quart every 900 miles. I'm using LiquiMoly 5-30 now after years of Royal Purple, always changed between 3000 and 5000 miles.

All that said, the car felt great and looks/feels new. I started a forum about 'Keeping my Clubman Forever', so these repairs are my car payments. (they've averaged over $400/month for the past year)

Here's my take on the round miles day :-)





 
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Old May 28, 2017 | 09:58 AM
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No drivability issues or CEL, but ours is suddenly making a slow knocking sound at idle only. It sounds much like the vacuum pump knock in videos of N14 cars--the top end is super quiet, and it's inaudible as you get driving/doesn't increase with RPM or anything.

It's tough to internet diagnose Justas because the entire internet is filled with N14 problems, LOL.

I don't see anyone has had vacuum pump issues on Justas, so I'm a bit worried save for the lack of CEL or rough driving. The thing is running normally.
 
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Old May 28, 2017 | 09:59 AM
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change the timing chain tensioner
 
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Old May 28, 2017 | 08:47 PM
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Why? There is no rattle and it's not RPM-corresponding.
 
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Old Nov 6, 2017 | 12:14 PM
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My 09 Justa has 93K, it has been trouble-free since new. I changed plugs at 80K. It burns about a quart every 1500-2K miles which began in about 30K ago. The issue which has developed in the last 10k has been an idle surge which has been difficult for me to pin. The surging is worse if car is low on oil but also has a slight surge with proper oil level. Cleaned Vanos, I thought it helped, but surging is back. More of an annoyance really, car runs great in gear and down the road. I will probably preemptively change both vanos, non return valve, and fuel breather tank valve since it is not throwing any codes and parts are relatively inexpensive. Almost totaled the car by using a "non-low profile" spark plug socket. To my horror, the socket went in fine, no issues, was plugging along just dandy until, on my 3rd plug, the socket got stuck in bore as I was unscrewing the plug. Thus began a 3 week long ordeal in which, I learned just how little these great cars are worth on the used market. If your planning on changing your own plugs....get the right socket!!!
 
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Old Aug 12, 2021 | 01:17 PM
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2011 Justa MT approaching 187K miles

Done this year per maintenance schedule or as a preventative measure: spark plugs, ignition coils, transmission fluid drain/refill, oil/filter change, battery quick disconnect, new oil pan and gasket (shop), front crank seal (shop), K&N Typhoon Intake.

Problems that led to her getting parked waiting for parts: starter relay, cooling fan relay, coolant temp sensor.

Currently the on board mpg is over 40. My bimmer friend said no that's overly optimistic you gotta keep track by logging the gallons/miles at each fill-up. If we take 5 off, 35 is still pretty good. 😁
 
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Old Aug 12, 2021 | 02:20 PM
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09 R55, N12, 6 speed.

118,000 kms (roughly 73,000 miles).

Bone stock (and staying that way).

It's "new to us", but service records at dealer indicates not much more than oil changes and regular service. Few annoyances the PO had done at the dealership like power window reprogramming, sticking rear door latch, etc...
 
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