R56 Most Common Issues with the 2nd Generation MCS.
#1
Most Common Issues with the 2nd Generation MCS.
What are the most common issues with the 07-current MCS?
I have found threads for the 1st gen cars that show the issues with them and also the breakdown by year as the issues were resolved by the factory.
Any such threads/links for the 2nd gen MCS?
I have found threads for the 1st gen cars that show the issues with them and also the breakdown by year as the issues were resolved by the factory.
Any such threads/links for the 2nd gen MCS?
#2
serious brotha ??? theres a whooooooooooooooooooole sub-forum ... heres the link
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ms-issues-188/
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ms-issues-188/
#3
Owner negligence, seriously.
Most of the timing chain, timing tensioner, vacuum pump, turbocharge failure and oil sludging are due to poor change frequency and low oil conditions.
And there is a situation with the carbon build-up due to a direct injection (DI) engine, but that's again due to "grandma-styling" driving techniques.
Yes, there is the water pump recall, but overall the platform is overall solid.
- Erik
Most of the timing chain, timing tensioner, vacuum pump, turbocharge failure and oil sludging are due to poor change frequency and low oil conditions.
And there is a situation with the carbon build-up due to a direct injection (DI) engine, but that's again due to "grandma-styling" driving techniques.
Yes, there is the water pump recall, but overall the platform is overall solid.
- Erik
#4
serious brotha ??? theres a whooooooooooooooooooole sub-forum ... heres the link
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ms-issues-188/
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ms-issues-188/
Owner negligence, seriously.
Most of the timing chain, timing tensioner, vacuum pump, turbocharge failure and oil sludging are due to poor change frequency and low oil conditions.
And there is a situation with the carbon build-up due to a direct injection (DI) engine, but that's again due to "grandma-styling" driving techniques.
Yes, there is the water pump recall, but overall the platform is overall solid.
- Erik
Most of the timing chain, timing tensioner, vacuum pump, turbocharge failure and oil sludging are due to poor change frequency and low oil conditions.
And there is a situation with the carbon build-up due to a direct injection (DI) engine, but that's again due to "grandma-styling" driving techniques.
Yes, there is the water pump recall, but overall the platform is overall solid.
- Erik
So far from what I have read, all R56's seem to be fairly equal from year to year. In other words, being more concerned about mileage and maintenance, rather than year, would be the rule. Does this sound about right?
#5
Let's not forget the troublesome clutch, it's a definite sore spot. Also the primary water pump (not the aux one just recalled) seems to have a lot of failures a few years in, based on threads posted here.
#6
if your mechanically inclined like you seem to be ... id pick up a service manual ... has helped me out with so much and using NAM as a crutch !!! instead of focusing on the negative things about the MINI, any pictures of your new one ??!?!!? and welcome
Last edited by sLy201; 02-26-2012 at 06:10 PM.
#7
Good; let me know if you're needing a local hand.
I would concur. Go with that as a ground rule and you should be good to go.
It's not the main reason; yes I will agree. Thanks for the follow-up KevinC.
- Erik
- Erik
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#8
Haven't purchased yet, just began searching last week.
This whole thing started when the wife decided she wanted to look at a Countryman. Well, after driving one (me riding shotgun) she decided it was the car for her. The impression I got just being in the passenger seat was enough to make me want to drive a MCS hardtop so I did. SOLD! I have to have one. And being a long time WRC fan, this will probably be about as close as I ever get to a real fun road car that I can play with and pretend to be Sebastien Loab.
So, the search continues...
NAM has turned out to be an incredible source for information! It's funny, ever since the late 90's I have been on forums like Pirate4x4, JeepForum and RaceDesert answering questions for newbs, kinda nice being the newb for a change!
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#13
Owner negligence, seriously.
Most of the timing chain, timing tensioner, vacuum pump, turbocharge failure and oil sludging are due to poor change frequency and low oil conditions.
And there is a situation with the carbon build-up due to a direct injection (DI) engine, but that's again due to "grandma-styling" driving techniques.
Yes, there is the water pump recall, but overall the platform is overall solid.
- Erik
Most of the timing chain, timing tensioner, vacuum pump, turbocharge failure and oil sludging are due to poor change frequency and low oil conditions.
And there is a situation with the carbon build-up due to a direct injection (DI) engine, but that's again due to "grandma-styling" driving techniques.
Yes, there is the water pump recall, but overall the platform is overall solid.
- Erik
#14
Many say 7K miles is a good number, I prefer around 4K miles due to consumption / heat cycles.
Also, make sure the synthetic oil you run is LL-01 approved (for US Spec).
As for the carbon build up, running a catch can in conjunction with a water / methanol kit does wonders.
- Erik
#15
Check, and change the engine oil more frequently than MINI's recommended service intervals.
Many say 7K miles is a good number, I prefer around 4K miles due to consumption / heat cycles.
Also, make sure the synthetic oil you run is LL-01 approved (for US Spec).
As for the carbon build up, running a catch can in conjunction with a water / methanol kit does wonders.
- Erik
Many say 7K miles is a good number, I prefer around 4K miles due to consumption / heat cycles.
Also, make sure the synthetic oil you run is LL-01 approved (for US Spec).
As for the carbon build up, running a catch can in conjunction with a water / methanol kit does wonders.
- Erik
#17
I've had 3 MINI's and maticulously maintaned all of them, oil change every 5k, proper break in, only use the best gas, blah blah blah. My R56, while wonderful to drive....always had something wrong with it. Sure my mods could have played a role, but if anything, they just accentuated already underlying problems. Few of the common ones have already been mentioned in this thread but here what comes to mind:
-Timing chain/timing chain tensioner
-HPFP failures (mine had 1 failure)
-DM Flywheel/Clutch problems (had the clutch/flywheel replaced TWICE in 50k miles. Not from poor driving or abuse...flywheel and/or throwout bearing issues both times)
-Carbon Buildup (They ALL have it, regardless of how the car is driven. Seafoaming regularly, helps a little, but the manifold must be pulled, and the valves must be scrubbed/blasted. Buildup is always worst on cyl #3 & #4)
-Piston failures (mine blew at 52k...sure my high boost didn't help, but stock cars have seen the same exact failures. Most are pistons #3 or #4, which coincidentally are the worst when it comes to carbon issues)
-Vaccuum pump failures
-VANOS failures
-Waterpump and theromstat housing issues (leakages)
-Turbo inlet tubes cracking
-Oil line blockages in the turbo (this is about the only one which I would agree is purely due to poor maintenance and can be prevented by changing oil frequently)
-High oil consumption
And yea, all years have issues...mine was an 08. Had a friend with an 09 that got bought back from MINI due to the shear number of constant issues. And working at a MINI dealer....I can tell you all years have problems. If you must buy an R56, look for one with low mileage and a complete service and maintenance history, like it was said above. The '11 & '12's are a little better from what I'm seeing and hearing, but I haven't really been paying attention to the R56 side of things now that I'm back in an R53 (ahhh sign of relief).
But hey, you might get lucky and get a good one
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