R56 Clutchless
Since the car has a syncrmesh gearbox it is possible to shift both in and out of gears without using the clutch. However, it is not something that I would recommend doing on a daily basis as you will miss shift and end up doing more ware and tare on the gearbox overtime.
Short story is yes you can, but don't do it.
Short story is yes you can, but don't do it.
OP wanted to know if it was ok to shift from a gear to neutral without the clutch when there was no load on the tranny. the answer is yes. 'why' is a different thread.
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If it's a problem to push in the clutch then why get a manual to begin with? Isn't that what slushies are for?
yes you can. at a certain rpm ( i do not know the exact number)
the shifter will just pull rite out of gear without being forced. it will not hurt anything.
now with that said,
Why would you want to do this?
the shifter will just pull rite out of gear without being forced. it will not hurt anything.
now with that said,
Why would you want to do this?
sheesh... ask a simple question... i normally don't do this because to me it's just second nature to use the clutch, so i don't even think about it. but if i feel lazy or i'm in stop and go traffic i'll start doing it to keep my leg from getting tired.
or hell, sometimes i do it just to do it and go, "wow, that was supercool! i just pulled it out of gear without using the clutch and it was very smooth and effortless and doesn't cause ANY damage whatsoever. i'm going to post it on NAM because i'm sure my fellow mini aficionados will ALSO think this is supercool and will have nothing but nice things to say."
or hell, sometimes i do it just to do it and go, "wow, that was supercool! i just pulled it out of gear without using the clutch and it was very smooth and effortless and doesn't cause ANY damage whatsoever. i'm going to post it on NAM because i'm sure my fellow mini aficionados will ALSO think this is supercool and will have nothing but nice things to say."
I do this on a regular basis, especially in traffic... there is a point when there is very little pressure on the gearbox when you are letting off the gas and the car transitions from accelerating to decelerating - you can just pull it out of gear.
Technically it would produce less wear on your clutch - realistically not so much.
I do it because i can.. keeps me from going crazzy in traffic :P
If you want to save your clutch practice your heel/toe & rev matching which limits any clutch riding and smooths out your driving.. my clutch has 160,000 KM and seems to be going strong (knock on mini dash)
phil.
Technically it would produce less wear on your clutch - realistically not so much.
I do it because i can.. keeps me from going crazzy in traffic :P
If you want to save your clutch practice your heel/toe & rev matching which limits any clutch riding and smooths out your driving.. my clutch has 160,000 KM and seems to be going strong (knock on mini dash)
phil.
sheesh... ask a simple question... i normally don't do this because to me it's just second nature to use the clutch, so i don't even think about it. but if i feel lazy or i'm in stop and go traffic i'll start doing it to keep my leg from getting tired.
or hell, sometimes i do it just to do it and go, "wow, that was supercool! i just pulled it out of gear without using the clutch and it was very smooth and effortless and doesn't cause ANY damage whatsoever. i'm going to post it on NAM because i'm sure my fellow mini aficionados will ALSO think this is supercool and will have nothing but nice things to say."

or hell, sometimes i do it just to do it and go, "wow, that was supercool! i just pulled it out of gear without using the clutch and it was very smooth and effortless and doesn't cause ANY damage whatsoever. i'm going to post it on NAM because i'm sure my fellow mini aficionados will ALSO think this is supercool and will have nothing but nice things to say."

I shift out of gear without using the clutch every now and then. For instance, I am a half mile from a red light at 55. Coasting down in gear sheds speed to fast. Holding speed is gonna get me there to quick. It is kinda lazy driving, but popping into neutral and using the brake for small adjustments, I just mosey into the traffic flow, out of the now green light, nice and easy.
It doesn't hurt anything, but it can be against the law in some states (you can't drive around in neutral). How they would enforce this is a big question.
It doesn't hurt anything, but it can be against the law in some states (you can't drive around in neutral). How they would enforce this is a big question.
I'm sorry, but that's the dumbest thing I've heard all day. Are your car controls skills really that bad. Just so you know, if you are in gear you can use the brake and throttle to modulate speed (that's actually what they are for...no really!), even for those long distances to your red light.
Sorry, couldn't resist...
When you have the right engine speed match, it should just drop into gear with just slight pressure. Up or down shouldn't make any difference, but I wouldn't really encourage this as a way to drive your MINI.
Honest, Tripper, I don't know why they let me drive.
But I did use the caveat "lazy driving". Here in Texas, or at least the part I am in, you can catch a red light or stop sign 1/2 a mile or so from a 70 mph zone. TxDoT puts up speed limit signs dropping it like 70-60-45 right before stop. We're not talking interstates, just small town Texas. Sux to the max.
I can judge the deceleration rate on my MINI in situations like I described. Rolling along I make a quick judgement call on the light, kick it out of gear, and roll on up. I only have to brake for minor adjustments.
I usually use this roll down time to wipe away sweat, rehydrate, and check in with the pit crew. Might have to come in for fuel, tires, or a chasis adjustment.
But I did use the caveat "lazy driving". Here in Texas, or at least the part I am in, you can catch a red light or stop sign 1/2 a mile or so from a 70 mph zone. TxDoT puts up speed limit signs dropping it like 70-60-45 right before stop. We're not talking interstates, just small town Texas. Sux to the max.
I can judge the deceleration rate on my MINI in situations like I described. Rolling along I make a quick judgement call on the light, kick it out of gear, and roll on up. I only have to brake for minor adjustments.
I usually use this roll down time to wipe away sweat, rehydrate, and check in with the pit crew. Might have to come in for fuel, tires, or a chasis adjustment.
Honest, Tripper, I don't know why they let me drive.
But I did use the caveat "lazy driving". Here in Texas, or at least the part I am in, you can catch a red light or stop sign 1/2 a mile or so from a 70 mph zone. TxDoT puts up speed limit signs dropping it like 70-60-45 right before stop. We're not talking interstates, just small town Texas. Sux to the max.
I can judge the deceleration rate on my MINI in situations like I described. Rolling along I make a quick judgement call on the light, kick it out of gear, and roll on up. I only have to brake for minor adjustments.
I usually use this roll down time to wipe away sweat, rehydrate, and check in with the pit crew. Might have to come in for fuel, tires, or a chasis adjustment.

But I did use the caveat "lazy driving". Here in Texas, or at least the part I am in, you can catch a red light or stop sign 1/2 a mile or so from a 70 mph zone. TxDoT puts up speed limit signs dropping it like 70-60-45 right before stop. We're not talking interstates, just small town Texas. Sux to the max.
I can judge the deceleration rate on my MINI in situations like I described. Rolling along I make a quick judgement call on the light, kick it out of gear, and roll on up. I only have to brake for minor adjustments.
I usually use this roll down time to wipe away sweat, rehydrate, and check in with the pit crew. Might have to come in for fuel, tires, or a chasis adjustment.

I've been through central Florida in my M3. I know those types of roads you speak of. It's a good way to practice heel-toe downshifting.



