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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 05:52 AM
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random q's

1 - so my best friend just got the new vw r32 gti. should i feel threatened? i don't know much about vee-dubs.

2 - does anyone know the approximate performance specs (0-60 ; 1/4mile) for the r56 with the jcw tuning kit? (not the john cooper works mini)

3 - will the unichip be compatible with the jcw tuning kit, as i understand that included with the kit, the ecu has already been fenagled with.

i apologize for the 3 very different q's. but i just didint want to start 3 different threads either. =P

thanks all.

btw, a ferrari pulled up next to me at a light. the driver smiled and told me his other car is a cooper s and he loves it very much.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 06:20 AM
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Sorry I can't answer your questions, but am wondering if you are in the Phoenix area. A co-worker has a neighbor who owns a ferrari but mostly drives his Mini.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 06:43 AM
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I know the GTI has a few more ponies under the hood (50+) and a few more pounds (900+) under the roofline so it evens out (kinda). Should be a great race and might even come down to the launch and how quick your shifting.

You have to be objective, our MINI's are not race cars, as much as I am looking forward to motoring in my MINI, they should not be purchased in hopes of buying a valid street (or track) racer. None of the optioned MINI's are producing sub 6 second times for 0-60 so we've got to be realistic.

If you can get him on the highway you'll eventually take him, his top end is only 130. (unless either of you flashed.)
 
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 07:28 AM
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1. VW R32... Feel good about your car and do not worry about somebody elses

2. Officially around 6.5 sec 0-60

3. Unichip has mucho ??? so read the threads that are posted.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 07:34 AM
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 08:11 AM
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i think a few people with alta's ecu chip, turbo back, fmi, and cai were getting close to 6.

its buried in the forum somewhere.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 09:07 AM
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2. take him to the canyons. he won't be faster there.
 
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Old Sep 18, 2008 | 11:19 AM
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There's always someone out there faster than you. Don't let numbers distract you from enjoying your car.
Mods are fun, I drive a modified Mustang, but if you chip yours he can chip his and beat you, ad nauseam. In the straight line, in the long run displacement usually wins in a modding war.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2008 | 11:42 AM
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take him on during long drive! first to fill up loses!
 
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Old Sep 19, 2008 | 11:49 AM
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He was a VW!!!

You have a BMW!!!

You can say that until VW is bought by Porsche.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2008 | 12:03 PM
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The VW your friend has, has a better power to weight ratio than your and my Mini cooper S, ...yet if you've modified your Mini, you may have a better power to weight ratio,

check out this site:
http://www.aspecpro.com/
 
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Old Sep 19, 2008 | 12:30 PM
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eR1C,

There are plenty of places that modifies a VW R32 with mucho HP. This becomes a HP race that a Mini would probably not win. It basically comes down to cubic inches and 4wd.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2008 | 12:45 PM
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slinger,

the statement in my first sentence states that the VW has a better power to weight ratio,

my second sentence states that all bets are off once you start modifying engines on these two closely matched cars.

I really don't care which is faster to be honest. But speaking stock cars the VW is faster.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2008 | 03:58 PM
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aaaahh! correction my friends, he doesnt have an R32. he has the lesser powered but still capable 2.0 turbocharged GTi....
 
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Old Sep 19, 2008 | 05:10 PM
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Wait... if your MINI Cooper S is capable of 6.5s 0-60 stock (if you have an amazing launch, etc)...

You are telling me that an ECU flash, an exhaust, and a CAI is going to get you less than half a second more?

That would be hardly noticeable.... but people add on a simple CAI and say they notice a large difference. I don't know... I've not yet modded this car yet, but it seems hardly worth the money.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2008 | 06:36 PM
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eR1c,

But it all seems moot. Alas it is a regular GTI.

Agreed, the VW R32 is a very capable car. I like their DSG.
 
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Old Sep 19, 2008 | 09:15 PM
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Stock MCS R56 and MK V GTI is very close. In term of steering feel, GTI feels light but there are plenty of feedback, but MINI with sport mode feels heavy but more direct and connected -- my 0.02.
 
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Old May 12, 2009 | 05:21 PM
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to question 1, car preference is very personal and if your friend bough a VW, thats his decision. if you have a rear sway and better tires, you'll get your friend in the twisties.
the other 2 questions i know nothing about.
 
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Old May 12, 2009 | 06:48 PM
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1- It couldn't be a new R32, R32 have stopped being produced for 2009 with the upcoming R20 being released soon (2010 maybe). That being said the R32 is not called a GTI just a Golf R32, there is a MKIV (2004) version and an MKV (2008) version, both having similar performance numbers and basically the same 3.2 VR6 (250hp 236lbs/tq) engine along with Haldex AWD. MKV is a bit faster because of DSG, iirc the 0-60 is like 5.8 sec. Threatend? Absolutely, its faster car with better traction.
 
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Old May 12, 2009 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by JudgeS
1- It couldn't be a new R32, R32 have stopped being produced for 2009 with the upcoming R20 being released soon (2010 maybe). That being said the R32 is not called a GTI just a Golf R32, there is a MKIV (2004) version and an MKV (2008) version, both having similar performance numbers and basically the same 3.2 VR6 (250hp 236lbs/tq) engine along with Haldex AWD. MKV is a bit faster because of DSG, iirc the 0-60 is like 5.8 sec. Threatend? Absolutely, its faster car with better traction.
OH SNAP!

Yah, I really got nothing to add. DSG is definitely amazing though. Dual wet clutch. My 06 New Beetle TDI had it. It was SLICK.

Boys and their toys.
 
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