R56 It's dead Jim... My MCSA had to be flatbedded yesterday

This one was engineered by Germans and French. They are just built in England.
Or the jaguars of the eighties, they would routinely have electrical fires, that would set the whole car a blaze.
I figured no lucas electronics in the Mini since BMW designed it...
I thought english cars got much better since the germans too over, my next door neighbor has a Bentley and it's bulletproof. I guess BMW vs VW design.
I'm starting to undestand why my neighbor on the otherside both hates and loves his quattroporte, hates it when it doesn't run, which is often, but loves it so much when it runs he puts up with the down time.
I thought english cars got much better since the germans too over, my next door neighbor has a Bentley and it's bulletproof. I guess BMW vs VW design.
I'm starting to undestand why my neighbor on the otherside both hates and loves his quattroporte, hates it when it doesn't run, which is often, but loves it so much when it runs he puts up with the down time.
Corey - glad to hear that all is well.
In my MINI world, I'll spare you the gory details, I had it detailed two weeks ago prior to MITM here in CO. The detailer also cleaned the engine with degreaser, water ~ normal procedure. Well, apparantly, the detailer used too much water pressure on the engine which set off the automatic cooling fan. The fan wouldn't automatically shutoff for an hr plus so I drove it to my friend's shop. He tries playing with the relay switches and notices water in the ECU body (this isn't water tight?). He plays around with it, seems to be ok. I pull out of his shop into heavy traffic and she sputters, bucks, spits and dies
. MINI USA is called and she's towed to the dealer (Ralph Schomp). It's thursday afternoon about 3. Friday at 3 they call me and tell me that the ECU was water damaged by "an outside influence" and is therefore an unwarrantied item. Additionally, the parts won't be available until the following Tues (there went MITM)
. Tuesday comes, the car is ready and $1,587.00 later she's back on the road
. All this over a glorified carwash? Needless to say I've cleaned dozens of engines over the years and never had this happen. I checked with a few other owners and electrical issues seem to be the pervasive theme / problem. Sensitive little buggers, these MINI's
. Be careful if you decide to detail your engine. Needless to say, we're off to MMMT next week and hopefully it will be a smooth, trouble-free drive to SF and back.
Happy motoring (gurgle, gurgle
)
In my MINI world, I'll spare you the gory details, I had it detailed two weeks ago prior to MITM here in CO. The detailer also cleaned the engine with degreaser, water ~ normal procedure. Well, apparantly, the detailer used too much water pressure on the engine which set off the automatic cooling fan. The fan wouldn't automatically shutoff for an hr plus so I drove it to my friend's shop. He tries playing with the relay switches and notices water in the ECU body (this isn't water tight?). He plays around with it, seems to be ok. I pull out of his shop into heavy traffic and she sputters, bucks, spits and dies
. MINI USA is called and she's towed to the dealer (Ralph Schomp). It's thursday afternoon about 3. Friday at 3 they call me and tell me that the ECU was water damaged by "an outside influence" and is therefore an unwarrantied item. Additionally, the parts won't be available until the following Tues (there went MITM)
. Tuesday comes, the car is ready and $1,587.00 later she's back on the road
. All this over a glorified carwash? Needless to say I've cleaned dozens of engines over the years and never had this happen. I checked with a few other owners and electrical issues seem to be the pervasive theme / problem. Sensitive little buggers, these MINI's
. Be careful if you decide to detail your engine. Needless to say, we're off to MMMT next week and hopefully it will be a smooth, trouble-free drive to SF and back.
Happy motoring (gurgle, gurgle
)
If you guys think MINIS are bad, you should have owned a 90's DSM (DSM= Diamond Star Motors - Mitsu Eclipse, Eagle Talon, Plymouth Laser).
I owned a 1992 Eagle Talon coupe that was the worst POS I ever owned and that includes two 80's GM products....
It was in the shop EIGHT TIMES in 38,000 miles, and we're talking major stuff here, the timing belt broke while idling at 16,000 miles lunched the entire top end of the engine, then transaxle leaks, engine oil leaks, I threw in the towel when at 38,000 the main crankshaft pulley came loose taking all the V-Belts with it.
They denied my warranty claim on the "60k drivetrain warranty" because they said those parts were "attached to the drivetrain, not part of it"
I promptly traded that POS on an Integra 13+ years ago and never looked back.
BTW - regarding your intake blowing off, same thing happened to my MSM (factory Turbo) Miata, I had to fix it on the side of the road to get home, but didn't have to take it to the dealer.
On the backside of a turbo, there is a lot of pressure, so if the clamps are not tight this can happen.
Sorry to hear about your problems, I'm hoping our MINI is a lot more problem free....
Analogeezer
I owned a 1992 Eagle Talon coupe that was the worst POS I ever owned and that includes two 80's GM products....
It was in the shop EIGHT TIMES in 38,000 miles, and we're talking major stuff here, the timing belt broke while idling at 16,000 miles lunched the entire top end of the engine, then transaxle leaks, engine oil leaks, I threw in the towel when at 38,000 the main crankshaft pulley came loose taking all the V-Belts with it.
They denied my warranty claim on the "60k drivetrain warranty" because they said those parts were "attached to the drivetrain, not part of it"
I promptly traded that POS on an Integra 13+ years ago and never looked back.
BTW - regarding your intake blowing off, same thing happened to my MSM (factory Turbo) Miata, I had to fix it on the side of the road to get home, but didn't have to take it to the dealer.
On the backside of a turbo, there is a lot of pressure, so if the clamps are not tight this can happen.
Sorry to hear about your problems, I'm hoping our MINI is a lot more problem free....
Analogeezer
If you guys think MINIS are bad, you should have owned a 90's DSM (DSM= Diamond Star Motors - Mitsu Eclipse, Eagle Talon, Plymouth Laser).
I owned a 1992 Eagle Talon coupe that was the worst POS I ever owned and that includes two 80's GM products....
It was in the shop EIGHT TIMES in 38,000 miles, and we're talking major stuff here, the timing belt broke while idling at 16,000 miles lunched the entire top end of the engine, then transaxle leaks, engine oil leaks, I threw in the towel when at 38,000 the main crankshaft pulley came loose taking all the V-Belts with it.
They denied my warranty claim on the "60k drivetrain warranty" because they said those parts were "attached to the drivetrain, not part of it"
I promptly traded that POS on an Integra 13+ years ago and never looked back.
BTW - regarding your intake blowing off, same thing happened to my MSM (factory Turbo) Miata, I had to fix it on the side of the road to get home, but didn't have to take it to the dealer.
On the backside of a turbo, there is a lot of pressure, so if the clamps are not tight this can happen.
Sorry to hear about your problems, I'm hoping our MINI is a lot more problem free....
Analogeezer
I owned a 1992 Eagle Talon coupe that was the worst POS I ever owned and that includes two 80's GM products....
It was in the shop EIGHT TIMES in 38,000 miles, and we're talking major stuff here, the timing belt broke while idling at 16,000 miles lunched the entire top end of the engine, then transaxle leaks, engine oil leaks, I threw in the towel when at 38,000 the main crankshaft pulley came loose taking all the V-Belts with it.
They denied my warranty claim on the "60k drivetrain warranty" because they said those parts were "attached to the drivetrain, not part of it"
I promptly traded that POS on an Integra 13+ years ago and never looked back.
BTW - regarding your intake blowing off, same thing happened to my MSM (factory Turbo) Miata, I had to fix it on the side of the road to get home, but didn't have to take it to the dealer.
On the backside of a turbo, there is a lot of pressure, so if the clamps are not tight this can happen.
Sorry to hear about your problems, I'm hoping our MINI is a lot more problem free....
Analogeezer
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A quality detailer will protect the ECU, intake, and electrical components, and use low water pressure to hose down an engine or at the very least, will keep water away from these sensitive area. A production detailer will use his pressure washer and hit the whole engine disregarding all of the above.
Sorry you had a bad experience--but people wonder what the difference is between a $200 detail and a $400+ detail---this is one of those reasons.
Richard
Sorry you had a bad experience--but people wonder what the difference is between a $200 detail and a $400+ detail---this is one of those reasons.
Richard
Corey - glad to hear that all is well.
In my MINI world, I'll spare you the gory details, I had it detailed two weeks ago prior to MITM here in CO. The detailer also cleaned the engine with degreaser, water ~ normal procedure. Well, apparantly, the detailer used too much water pressure on the engine which set off the automatic cooling fan. The fan wouldn't automatically shutoff for an hr plus so I drove it to my friend's shop. He tries playing with the relay switches and notices water in the ECU body (this isn't water tight?). He plays around with it, seems to be ok. I pull out of his shop into heavy traffic and she sputters, bucks, spits and dies
. MINI USA is called and she's towed to the dealer (Ralph Schomp). It's thursday afternoon about 3. Friday at 3 they call me and tell me that the ECU was water damaged by "an outside influence" and is therefore an unwarrantied item. Additionally, the parts won't be available until the following Tues (there went MITM)
. Tuesday comes, the car is ready and $1,587.00 later she's back on the road
. All this over a glorified carwash? Needless to say I've cleaned dozens of engines over the years and never had this happen. I checked with a few other owners and electrical issues seem to be the pervasive theme / problem. Sensitive little buggers, these MINI's
. Be careful if you decide to detail your engine. Needless to say, we're off to MMMT next week and hopefully it will be a smooth, trouble-free drive to SF and back.
Happy motoring (gurgle, gurgle
)
In my MINI world, I'll spare you the gory details, I had it detailed two weeks ago prior to MITM here in CO. The detailer also cleaned the engine with degreaser, water ~ normal procedure. Well, apparantly, the detailer used too much water pressure on the engine which set off the automatic cooling fan. The fan wouldn't automatically shutoff for an hr plus so I drove it to my friend's shop. He tries playing with the relay switches and notices water in the ECU body (this isn't water tight?). He plays around with it, seems to be ok. I pull out of his shop into heavy traffic and she sputters, bucks, spits and dies
. MINI USA is called and she's towed to the dealer (Ralph Schomp). It's thursday afternoon about 3. Friday at 3 they call me and tell me that the ECU was water damaged by "an outside influence" and is therefore an unwarrantied item. Additionally, the parts won't be available until the following Tues (there went MITM)
. Tuesday comes, the car is ready and $1,587.00 later she's back on the road
. All this over a glorified carwash? Needless to say I've cleaned dozens of engines over the years and never had this happen. I checked with a few other owners and electrical issues seem to be the pervasive theme / problem. Sensitive little buggers, these MINI's
. Be careful if you decide to detail your engine. Needless to say, we're off to MMMT next week and hopefully it will be a smooth, trouble-free drive to SF and back.
Happy motoring (gurgle, gurgle
)
Good to hear that you are back in business Corey!
Based on my experiences with new cars, there are usually one or two issues that need to be resolved (Japanese or American), but once these are corrected, things are great for quite a while!
Based on my experiences with new cars, there are usually one or two issues that need to be resolved (Japanese or American), but once these are corrected, things are great for quite a while!
A quality detailer will protect the ECU, intake, and electrical components, and use low water pressure to hose down an engine or at the very least, will keep water away from these sensitive area. A production detailer will use his pressure washer and hit the whole engine disregarding all of the above.
Sorry you had a bad experience--but people wonder what the difference is between a $200 detail and a $400+ detail---this is one of those reasons.
Richard
Sorry you had a bad experience--but people wonder what the difference is between a $200 detail and a $400+ detail---this is one of those reasons.
Richard
From now on, I'm the only one who details my car (esp. my MINI!)
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