Off topic: Would the confederate flag be less offensive if it was blessed by the pope? GW thinks so.



As for Captain Lou, I know he wouldn't eat here.

 

Battle over Confederate flag hits highways

Huge displays along interstates raise old debates over the history of war and slavery.
By Patrik Jonsson | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor

http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0804/p03s02-ussc.html

If nothing else ya'll are timely on the news...

 

His rights are not in dispute. As far as I can tell, neither are anyone's rights to own property in this country (unless you mean fully-automatic weapons). You are obviously an intelligent well-spoken person with strong convictions, and although I'm sure we're on opposite sides of the aisle on most issues, I enjoyed reading your post.

Although...

-1 to dismissing/reducing the transgressions of the Patriot Act to a "gnat bite."

 

Wonder just how many years the English flag represented oppression and bondage to more than just a few people......

 

I have lived in TN for the past 10 years and must say your misconceptions about the state and its residents are staggering.

 

Well, that was more of an exaggeration, just to show how common place they are, and how rare it is that someone would find it offensive. It was also more to compare what's acceptable in MD to TN. I also think the OP description is very similar, at least in his area of TN, and echos the sentiment I was trying to get across.

That was basically the opinion I formed from my experiences, but again that was mostly North GA (with many visits to TN). Where maybe not every other car had one, but you couldn't go out for the day and not see one.

I'm also sure its very dependent on what part of TN your in, ie, the opinions in Memphis will probably be a lot different then those in Nashville or Chattanooga.

Then again I also think your perception may not be as close to reality as you think it is, as indicated in the last two lines of the article that gnatster brought up, although it mostly pertains to Florida.

"Still, it's not clear whether the flag is actually that sensitive a topic. The economic effect of NAACP and NCAA boycotts in South Carolina has been minimal, according to state officials.

More recently, a Florida newspaper poll revealed that few drivers found the Tampa flag offensive, which surprised many officials."

 

Thank You.

 

Well not that I feel its important to have someone else validate my opinion but again...

Thank you, my point exactly.

Tennessee Cutty is OP btw

 

I can see how my comment could be misconstrued. I don't believe privacy is an irrelevancy, but privacy is one of the concepts covered by the 18th Century definition of property. You can have a property in ideas, also. Today we think of property as something tangible--acreage, a car, an iPod--but it is much more in political philosophy.

As to my comment, a property in privacy is meaningless if one has no control over the tangible aspects of life--this may seem trite, but bear with me. Extend this to tangibles. If you cannot control your body, your car, your house, your fishing pole and such, what meaning does individual liberty have? That you're free to sit where someone else will allow? That you can drive when somone else is willing to let you have your vehicle? That you are at liberty to starve because someone else wants to use your fishing pole? You get the point. It was exactly this point that led the Supreme Court to over-rule state laws that prevented blacks from eating and sleeping in many places. How were they to be considered 'free' if they could not travel at will do to exclusion from necessary services and supplies?

So, when I said that privacy was a gnat's bite on the elbow of liberty, what I was gesturing at is its reliance upon property as that which gives privacy meaning.

Are we still on opposite sides?
R

 

-1

 

Because you know more about TN than a person who has lived there the past ten years ?

And you agree that one in every two cars in TN runs around with the rebel flag on it ?

 

Lynched isn't really something that funny.


Picture removed due to content.

 

Why not use a flag representing the CSA other than the Battle Flag? Most folks wouldn't recognize it - let alone associate with the ignorant bigots who highjacked it for their own purposes?

 

Not at all, I just found your response childish since the poster you are (kindly put....having the discussion with) had already said he was exaggerating.

But you know, I really should have not responded to your remark, My Bad. That last thing I'd relish is a pissing match with someone like you.

 

If you were someone who actually has been around this board for more than a couple of short months, you'd know that I'm not the kind of poster you seem to think I am. Maybe you should reserve your comments until you gain some additional insight on a person.

And perhaps you should look at the post of 22003 again. You might be able to understand that I was not only agreeing with his comment about the "every other car in TN has a rebel flag on it", but the fact that the general tone JudgeS has taken in this thread is uninformed and someone who has lived there 10 years would certainly have a better understanding of the people of TN than someone who spent a whopping 3 summers there.

Your problem wasn't engaging me in debate. It was jumping in with an ill informed perspective.

 

Yet it was complete different then that of the OP, who also lives in TN, and was the actual person we were discussing at the time (which to me would be the most relevant opinion to the topic), but who really cares at this point, it certainly beating a dead horse.

The view that you cant accept or respect opinions that differ from yours and move on, so much so you need to pat yourself on the back when someone agrees with you (only 6 pages later btw) is what I would assume he was objecting to and saying was childish (although that was just my impression, I don't want to speak for someone else).

Oh and its 11003, not 22003.

 

I don't know how long the OP has lived in TN. He says he moved there from San Fran. Maybe it was only a year ago ??

Yeah... who does care anymore ? We could both live in TN for 20 years and still not agree that some there might be offended with the symbol of the rebel flag.

And one of us needs new reading glasses. Looks like the poster I was agreeing with is new22003.

 

My point exactly,

and yes I guess I do, my eyes must be going bad from reading all these books on the Civil War.

 

Perhaps, but I must go with limited experience. Of course that could change, things are not static, at least not in my world.

To be honest, your perception was quite accurate.

I will bid adieu' with this...

 

Would you like my perception of *you* based on my limited experience ?

You'll have to guess. I won't make the same mistake you did.

 

Gee I thought I was on a Mini forum not social studies 101

 

I guess you missed this part, Either you chose to ignore the meaning of the above or that I underestimated your comprehension skills.
To add insult, the Judge was merely correct in reading the meaning of my "childish" remark directed towards your action and was not part of my response.
Sheesh....

 

I have a very respectible IQ score, I can assure you. So you can decide for yourself if I can read or if I simply chose to ignore that statement based on things you've previously stated in this thread.

Calling my post "childish" or using the adjective on me... still an insult, no matter how you try to slice it and dice it.

Sheesh.

 

Perhaps you should have asked for suggestions on where to purchase a Custom Roof Graphic instead of being so specific. This whole thread turned off topic really quickly.

I actually enjoy the lively discussion, but the OP wasn't really asking whether or not he should get the flag.

 

If I come on here asking for advice on where my girlfriend could get an abortion, do you think that would generate any discussion on abortions ?

I should fully expect it to, wouldn't you say ?

And show me a thread that stays completely on topic and I'll show you a short thread.