I'm black ( as if thats totally relevant) and would be completely offended, but i guess thats kinda the point so do what you want. Personally, I'd test the water with a "honk if you hate ******s" magnet bumper sticker and if all goes well, go for it!!

 

Yes it is unfortunate, but the reality is, TC does have to worry about this.

 

I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."
N. B.: This quote is commonly attributed to Voltaire, but it is not found in his writing.
-S. G. Tallentyre, The Friends of Voltaire

 

I believe you were correct, however, recently I've seen a very noticeable backlash to the PC movement of the late 90 early 2000s, it been very refreshing.

 

No matter what the symbol originally stood for, or however you personally interpret it, the fact is that some people will be offended.

I also don't personally think that it flows with the MINI image.

 

Actually the point would be that since it offended you would you go to the extent of vandalizing his car because it does.

 

So wait now your stereotyping all Minis, thats not very Mini, dam now you have me doing it, GD mini elitists .

 

No matter what we do someone gets offend. Sure there are some social bounds that we try not cross but it's his or her car and as long as there is no statute in place the only thing they may offend is your idea of good taste.

The person is proud of their heritage and wants to display it.

On a more personal note I think it doesn't go well with the color of the car. CR might be a better choice.

 

I wouldn't go so far as to vandalize some strangers car, thats a bit much. To quote Pulp Fiction, "You just don't mess with a man's car." I'd just be kinda bummed. I'd have to double check a calendar and make sure what year it was. Like if I hit a vortex in the time space continuum and was accidently sent back in time and saw that i'd just be like, "oh, well that makes sense."

 

Yea it would not look good on an OB car, I think DS would be best sort of confederate soldier look, also fine on CR or AB.

 

Lol what if I put a gaint swastica on my car cause I'm German would that offend anyone?? of course it would

the point is that they both stand as symbols of hate in different times(even though the swastica is actually a religous symbol) Show some class and dont do it or at very least sell your mini and buy a rusted truck if you are a real redneck

 

+1

 

Most strangers who would see that symbol would jump to a conclusion that the car belonged to a bigot.

 

Um no its quite different, the confederate flag has never been a symbol that stood for hate, it may have been adopted by some groups that stand for hate, but it was not their symbol. It also has a historical place that stands for southern pride, a person that thinks the confederate flag stands for hate is just being ignorant. Many hateful people have stood behind flags and said it represented them (many times it was the American flag) that doesn't mean it defines the flag if thats not what it was intended for. The confederate flags represented the CSA during the Civil War (nothing more), and that had nothing to do with hate, if you think it does your in need of a history lesson.

The same ignorance can be said for the many who hate the British flag, its found offensive by many because of Britain's practices over the years, yet we see a few on Minis. If you doubt me go wave a british flag in any Irish bar in Brooklyn or Boston and see if you don't offend anyone.

I bet you can also find a few people offended by the American flag, and would say it represents hate, what should we do about that, should we cater to them to.

 

Unfortunately, most strangers along with rednecks are ignorant.

 

The swastika, like the circle and spiral, was a universal symbol that can be found in works by ancient cultures all over the world. IRC, it shows up in art works from pre-Columbian America, Greece, pre-Christian Ireland, China, Japan, etc., and is believed to be a sun symbol in many ancient cultures.

It is a shame that the ***** co-opted the swastika, just as it is a shame that some American hate groups co-opted the Confederate flag.

 

That may be so, but what image do you want to project about yourself?

 

The rebel flag does NOT represent slavery and bigotry. It represents something far more scarier to our goverment: REVOLUTION!!! It represents a place that's economy was controlled by plantations etc. Where as the north was industrial. The north knew by taking away slavery it was killing the souths economy. I find the Rebel flag to be an amazing thing, the problem is that the goverment has taught it to be a bad thing. There afraid of revolts like that, breaking away from a goverment because they were opressive , How amazing is that!?!?! Sadly our youth (me being one), will never be able to be taught the truth. The rebel flag has had its image ruiined by rednecks and the KKK. I love the thought of a few men coming together and saying they've had enough and breaking away, its a shame we can no longer do such a thing. Also arguing that Abe started the war to stop slavery is completely false.

"We are not fighting for slavery. We are fighting for independence."

Confederate flags are the ultimate worldwide symbols of resistance to unconstitutional authority and for liberty and self determination. Yes, it has been drummed into us by the media that only "hate groups and extremists" use our Confederate symbols, while ignoring that these same groups also us the Flag of the United States and the Christian cross.

 

no history lesson needed here it stood for the Southern armies and states that were PRO-slavery. Think that isn't bigotry or hate?

Its not my ignorance its just others denial.

The Union jack was acutally introduced when Ireland became part of the UK in 1801.

So if i was to put a burning stars and stripes on my roof to celibrate Canadian pride in being the only country to Sack the American capital and set fire to the white house. This wouldnt be construded as hate for America?? Give me a break

 

Personally, I would only care what I thought, not what I was projecting, as you cant control how others see you, just how you see yourself. I know who I am I don't need others to define me.

Of course the OP has to ask himself that, I for one support him if thats the route he goes, not that he should really care what I think (or anyone else) its his car, he should do what he wants.

 

This is just ridiculous, unless you were in the South during the civil war you're just jumping on a bandwagon by flying the rebel flag (whatever you think it represents). Saying the Rebel flag is a symbol of pride and such is the white equivalent of slavery reparations.

We're so eager to jump behind our rights just because we can we don't ever think to actually use them in a productive manner, so many are just in this for shock value. So to all our CSA veterans of the Civil War fly your Rebel Flag with pride, to all the rest of you, get over it, the war's over, you lost and history's written by the winners.

Is this inflammatory enough for y'all? I'm just enjoying my first amendment rights.

 

Yes it wasn't bigotry or hate (well except maybe hatred of the North to try to ruin their economy). If you knew history you would know first off that the civil war had little to do with slavery, and secondly slavery had little to do with hatred or bigotry. Slavery was an unfortunate feature of the South's (and other plantation based) 19th century economies, and was ending regardless of the result of the Civil War. The Civil War was also being fought regardless of the status of slavery in America at the time.

The fiction that the Civil War was fought simply over slavery, is an unfortunate result of the fictional way our history has been taught in America over the last 100 years or so.

Now of course I'm not saying there wasn't bigotry and hate at the time (or with regards to slavery) to a heinous degree, but don't be fooled it was going on in both the North and the South, and nothing to do with the war, or the country view of slavery.

 

Hellion I beleive you do need a history lesson.

FIRST NOTE: The Confederate States of America freed her slaves in 1863(emancipation...); the Federal Union didn’t do it until 1868 with the passage of the 13th amendment. I repeat.. by the time Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation in 1863, every slave in Lee’s charge had been freed. Yet some Union generals didn’t free their slaves until the ratification of the 14th Amendment in 1868!

SECOND NOTE: "There were more slaveholders in the Union Army (315,000) than the Confederate Army (200,000). Statistics also show that about 300,000 blacks supported the Confederacy versus about 200,000 for the Union."
SOURCE: Mildred Lewis Rutherford's (Georgia Educator, National Orator and Grand Historian of the United Daughters of the Confederacy) book "Truths of History".

THIRD NOTE: Only six percent of Southerners owned slaves and among this six- percent were 13,000 free Blacks who owned slaves themselves.

 

No one is saying that was the reason the civil war took place but its pretty clear where the south stood in regards to coloured people and slavery and it is a symbol of all their beliefs. You can pic and choose and say that the ***** really didn't mean to kill the Jewish people they just wanted to fight oppression.

De Nile its more then a river in Eygpt.

 

Well to be blatently honest, your wrong yet again. The south regaurded african americans higher than most union states.

Lincoln planned on sending newly liberated slaves to Panama.He also thought that the freed slaves could never assimiliate in American culture and would be a burden to the culture. Also Freed slaves joined the South Carolina Unit to fight against the Union during the war.

94% of Southerners during 1860 did NOT own slaves!
...source: 1860 US Census.


Great quote from the great lincoln slave lover
"But even when you cease to be slaves, you are yet far removed from being placed on an equality with the white race."

Also if it stands for slavery how come the U.S. Flag flew over slavery a full 70 years before the Confederate States of America came into existence?


Jack