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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 01:25 PM
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China Made Engines on the 2007 MINI

Several months ago, several people posted that their MINI engines were made in China. At least one posted a picture of his/her window sticker to prove it. I remember making the comment to the effect of "Does that mean some of us are dirivng ricers?" Now, I cannot find those posts. Can anyone help me out here, as I have been accused of mileading people, misrepresenting the fact, and maybe even kicking small animals?
 
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by LynnEl
Several months ago, several people posted that their MINI engines were made in China. At least one posted a picture of his/her window sticker to prove it. I remember making the comment to the effect of "Does that mean some of us are dirivng ricers?" Now, I cannot find those posts. Can anyone help me out here, as I have been accused of mileading people, misrepresenting the fact, and maybe even kicking small animals?
Some more conflicting info:

The old Chrysler-born two-valve engines will be replaced by a brand-new engine family developed in cooperation with French manufacturer Citroën. These four-valve engines will be built by BMW in England and measure 1.6 liters. The Mini Cooper will still get a naturally aspirated version of the four-cylinder, while the Cooper S will trade its supercharger for a turbo.

The current window stickers show country of origin for the engine is France, not China.

I can not find the web sight that at the moment that had information and pics of the engine factory, will post if I can find it.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 01:50 PM
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The engine is not made in China.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 01:52 PM
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The Vert's might show chinese parts because the old Tritec factory has been in chinese hands for awhile now.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 01:56 PM
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Not the sight I was looking for, but an intersting read:

http://www.duemotori.com/news/auto_n...nth_Engine.php

http://www.carenthusiast.com/news.ht...article&id=191
 

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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 01:59 PM
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My window sticker said my engine was made in France or Germany (I forget which one), but it definitely was NOT China.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by rattmobbins
it definitely was NOT China.
No, LynnEl is right...some R56 coupe stickers definitely said China as a point of origination for the engine. It was weird then as it is now. Most of our R56s did not say this, but as I recall one guy actually scanned his sticker because we didn't believe him at first!!!
 
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 02:07 PM
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wrong post
 
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by gokartride
No, LynnEl is right...some R56 coupe stickers definitely said China as a point of origination for the engine. It was weird then as it is now. Most of our R56s did not say this, but as I recall one guy actually scanned his sticker because we didn't believe him at first!!!
I'm not saying LynnEl is incorrect, just saying someone told me that when I was starting to look at the Mini's and alll the info I could find was it was not made in China. As I said above, some more confusion about the Mini's.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 02:21 PM
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My window sticker says that the engine was made in France and that the transmission was made in Japan.

Or was it the other way around? I'll check when I get home tonight.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 02:24 PM
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Tritec Engine

Perhaps this will help:


Tritec engine
The Campo Largo engine factory that Lifan wants to buy was built in southern Brazil in the late 1990s at a cost of $500 million by a 50-50 joint venture of Chrysler (before its takeover by Daimler-Benz) and BMW. It combines the latest American and German technology to produce the 1.6-liter, 16-valve Tritec engine, one of the most technologically advanced and fuel-efficient car engines in the world.
By the time production began in September 1998, however, the Campo Largo engine factory was already a corporate orphan due to Daimler's takeover of Chrysler. Daimler had ample engine manufacturing capacity of its own and was uncomfortable collaborating with its German archrival, BMW.
Nonetheless, BMW installed its half of the engines from Campo Largo in its Mini Cooper while Chrysler put its share of the engines into its Neon compact cars and the PT Cruiser. Now, BMW has announced that future engines for the Mini Cooper will come from a factory in France owned by PSA Peugeot Citroen.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by LynnEl
Several months ago, several people posted that their MINI engines were made in China.
I think you are recalling this thread, but it was Japan, not China.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ahalibut
My window sticker says that the engine was made in France and that the transmission was made in Japan.

Or was it the other way around? I'll check when I get home tonight.
How about engine France, transmission Germany ?
 
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 02:30 PM
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At this point anything is possible!!
 
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 02:43 PM
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This is the window sticker I liked.

 
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DanF
This is the window sticker I liked.
nice pshop, wrong font tho
 
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 03:26 PM
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And whatever thread that was in had the REAL one stating CHINA. I never said ALL were from China. Jeeeez!
 
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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None were, none BMW is going to send a few engines from China? Makes no sense at all. Didn't happen.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by mozzarella
None were, none BMW is going to send a few engines from China? Makes no sense at all. Didn't happen.
Do not call me a liar. Auto companies outsource all the time. It very well could have been that, initially, the Chinese produced engines were not going into US destined vehicles. Unless those other posters were lying and/or gokartride and I were hallucinating, some had the Chinese engine. Now, can someone tell me how I can set an ignore? I don't need to hear from a poster who calls me a liar.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by LynnEl
Do not call me a liar. Auto companies outsource all the time. It very well could have been that, initially, the Chinese produced engines were not going into US destined vehicles. Unless those other posters were lying and/or gokartride and I were hallucinating, some had the Chinese engine. Now, can someone tell me how I can set an ignore? I don't need to hear from a poster who calls me a liar.
This is what happens on NAM all the time some misinformation is posted and before you know it it's a fact. If I remember one person had a sticker that said China and I believe it was then found out it was a misprint.

Think about it there is a plant in France that had the tooling to make this engine that might be all they make, PSA does not send the tooling to China to make a hand full of engines and nobody in China has the tooling so how do these engines get made. There's more to make an engine than making a sweatshirt.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 03:51 PM
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staying out of the battle.
 

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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 04:57 PM
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I read that the Chinese were in talks to buy the Brazil Tritec plant and disassemble is and move it to China.

If I can find the link, I'll post it,


http://motoringfile.com/2006/02/17/c...ritec-factory/



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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 05:07 PM
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that is exactly what i heard

Originally Posted by Charva
I read that the Chinese were in talks to buy the Brazil Tritec plant and disassemble is and move it to China.

If I can find the link, I'll post it,


http://motoringfile.com/2006/02/17/c...ritec-factory/



Dave
i belive the bmw's made in china are knockdowns. i am not aware of reading about any manufacturing in china
 
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 05:09 PM
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Ugggg. This is going nowhere. Forget I ever saw it. Apparently for completely inexplicable reasons, CHINA was mistakenly entered where France should have been on a MINI window sticker, in violation of Federal law. Either that, or a few posters decided to coordinate a hoax for the hell of it. In any case, I don't give a crap anymore. This all started because I had the nerve to suggest that just because something is made in Korea, doesn't make it bad and doesn't mean the vendor is unethical.
 
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Old Aug 23, 2007 | 05:11 PM
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I was under the impression that R56 engines were to be built in Hams Hall, UK. My MCa has a French built engine, Japanese transmission. I understand that the 6 speed boxes are German. Not a big issue to me, but interesting just the same.

Here's a link to the Lifan-Tritec story... and a shot of a cheesy car.
http://paultan.org/archives/2006/02/...ritec-factory/
 
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