R56 :: Hatch Talk (2007+) MINI Cooper and Cooper S (R56) hatchback discussion.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

R56 Favorite Oil?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 28, 2007 | 12:38 AM
  #1  
CoryS's Avatar
CoryS
Thread Starter
|
1st Gear
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Favorite Oil?

Appologies if dead horses are being beaten, but is there a favorite oil/weight among Mini owners? I'm getting close to placing my order for probably a 2007 non-turbo.
 
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2007 | 12:54 AM
  #2  
SimpsonGI's Avatar
SimpsonGI
Coordinator :: Emerald MINI Car Club
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,790
Likes: 0
From: Eugene, OR
I believe the consensus is Castrol 5W-30 Synthetic. You can read through this thread on where to buy the oil and filter, and this thread has step by step instructions including pictures for changing the oil. But yes, as you've said, this is really a dead horse with multiple opinions that have been sometimes gotten rather hot.

I hope the links help.
 
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2007 | 08:20 AM
  #3  
Robin Casady's Avatar
Robin Casady
6th Gear
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 7,578
Likes: 5
From: Paradise
It has to be a full synthetic 5-30 weight. The official recommendation is Castrol Syntec 5-30, but many feel that is merely a marketing endorsement, not a judgement based on best quality. Some prefer Mobil 1, others prefer AMSOIL. I don't recall any comments about Royal Purple, or Red Line.
 
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2007 | 08:27 AM
  #4  
1QukMINI's Avatar
1QukMINI
6th Gear
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,224
Likes: 0
From: Atlanta, GA
I like the Rachel Ray Extra Virgin Olive Oil. I like the taste, and the fact you can use it in a multitude of ways. To cook with, on a salad, as a marinade....What's that? Oh, motor oil. I missed something somewhere....
jasn
 
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2007 | 08:39 AM
  #5  
ignote's Avatar
ignote
5th Gear
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 615
Likes: 0
From: Maryland
The BMW/Castrol 5w-30 oil that the Dealer uses is quite good and a reasonable price for synthetic. It's not the same oil as the over the counter Castrol Syntec.
 
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2007 | 09:19 AM
  #6  
Robin Casady's Avatar
Robin Casady
6th Gear
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 7,578
Likes: 5
From: Paradise
Originally Posted by 1QukMINI
I like the Rachel Ray Extra Virgin Olive Oil. I like the taste, and the fact you can use it in a multitude of ways.
Napa Valley Naturals Organic Extra Virgin for me.
 
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2007 | 09:27 AM
  #7  
Robin Casady's Avatar
Robin Casady
6th Gear
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 7,578
Likes: 5
From: Paradise
Originally Posted by ignote
The BMW/Castrol 5w-30 oil that the Dealer uses is quite good and a reasonable price for synthetic. It's not the same oil as the over the counter Castrol Syntec.
I wasn't aware of that. I'd like to hear more. What is the difference? Can you only get the BMW version through a MINI dealer?
 
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2007 | 09:33 AM
  #8  
andyde's Avatar
andyde
5th Gear
iTrader: (1)
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 760
Likes: 1
From: Houston
I've always used Mobil 1 and will use it on my MCS...
 
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2007 | 10:01 AM
  #9  
rattmobbins's Avatar
rattmobbins
6th Gear
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 1,310
Likes: 1
From: Ay Bee Cue, NM
Originally Posted by andyde
I've always used Mobil 1 and will use it on my MCS...

Werd. You can get 5 quarts of Mobil 1 at Wal-Mart for $20!!!
 
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2007 | 11:20 AM
  #10  
CoryS's Avatar
CoryS
Thread Starter
|
1st Gear
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
Is Amsoil probably the "best" of the not-at-your-local-Pep-Boys oil?
 
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2007 | 11:27 AM
  #11  
Scoobywrx's Avatar
Scoobywrx
3rd Gear
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 155
Likes: 0
From: SoCal
Originally Posted by CoryS
Is Amsoil probably the "best" of the not-at-your-local-Pep-Boys oil?
Yes. And Amsoil doesn't use extra unneeded detergents. Its the only oil company IIRC meets every manufacturuer rating as a substitute oil..However Royal Purple provides the least friction(sometimes a bad thing)..Tranny/LSD.
 
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2007 | 11:59 AM
  #12  
dmeadow's Avatar
dmeadow
2nd Gear
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 71
Likes: 1
Originally Posted by Scoobywrx
However Royal Purple provides the least friction(sometimes a bad thing)..Tranny/LSD.
Royal Purple is available at some of your local auto parts stores, making it more convenient than most of the not-at-your-Pep-Boys stuff. I get it at O'Reilly's here in the Houston area.

I used Mobil 1 exclusively until they changed the formulations a year or so ago. I can't get the heavier weights that I needed for the older cars, so I've gone to Royal Purple.
 
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2007 | 12:08 PM
  #13  
tdm156's Avatar
tdm156
Ruling the curves
Joined: Dec 2005
Posts: 1,651
Likes: 0
From: San Antonio Texas
I use Castrol 5W-30 Synthetic in my MINI as well as my other vehicles. Castrol has been in my garage for many years and has always given me the mileage and protection that well exceeded my wants and needs.
 
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2007 | 12:17 PM
  #14  
Robin Casady's Avatar
Robin Casady
6th Gear
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 7,578
Likes: 5
From: Paradise
Originally Posted by Scoobywrx
However Royal Purple provides the least friction(sometimes a bad thing)..Tranny/LSD.
When would this be a bad thing?

I wonder which oil is best suited to the turbo heat?
 
Reply
Old Jul 29, 2007 | 12:07 AM
  #15  
aus's Avatar
aus
3rd Gear
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 162
Likes: 0
From: Seal Beach, CA
If you get Mobil 1, you should get the 5-40 oil, not the 5-30 since Mobil rate's it's oil on the thin side, comparted to Castro. The Mobil 1 5-40 is actually about as thick as the Castro 5-30. Unfortunately, the 5-40 is much harder to find at non-auto parts stores.
If you want the original Group IV Mobil 1, then you have to get the "Extended" Mobil 1, which is suppose to be what Mobil 1 was before they dropped it to a Group III oil to compete with everyone else calling a Group III oil synthetic... which, unfortunately, is legal in this country. I'm sure Big Oil has a lot to do with this.
 
Reply
Old Jul 29, 2007 | 12:19 AM
  #16  
ScottRiqui's Avatar
ScottRiqui
OVERDRIVE
15 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 7,201
Likes: 8
From: Norfolk, VA
Originally Posted by Robin Casady
When would this be a bad thing?
Some clutches and differentials have bands or friction plates that, even though they're submerged in oil, still require a certain amount of friction to work properly.

The clutch is more of an issue with motorcycles, because not only do most of them have "wet" clutches, those clutches share the same oil supply as the engine, so using a super-slippery oil for the sake of the engine has been known to cause clutch slippage.
 
Reply
Old Jul 29, 2007 | 12:22 AM
  #17  
ScottRiqui's Avatar
ScottRiqui
OVERDRIVE
15 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 7,201
Likes: 8
From: Norfolk, VA
Originally Posted by Robin Casady
Napa Valley Naturals Organic Extra Virgin for me.
As often as some people change their oil, I think they probably *could* get by with olive oil in their engines...
 
Reply
Old Jul 29, 2007 | 12:24 AM
  #18  
Robin Casady's Avatar
Robin Casady
6th Gear
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 7,578
Likes: 5
From: Paradise
Originally Posted by ScottRiqui
Some clutches and differentials have bands or friction plates that, even though they're submerged in oil, still require a certain amount of friction to work properly.

The clutch is more of an issue with motorcycles, because not only do most of them have "wet" clutches, those clutches share the same oil supply as the engine, so using a super-slippery oil for the sake of the engine has been known to cause clutch slippage.
Am I right in thinking that there are no such systems that use the engine oil in the MINI? So, there shouldn't be any problem using a slippery oil in an MCS, right?
 
Reply
Old Jul 29, 2007 | 12:28 AM
  #19  
ScottRiqui's Avatar
ScottRiqui
OVERDRIVE
15 Year Member
Liked
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 7,201
Likes: 8
From: Norfolk, VA
Originally Posted by Robin Casady
Am I right in thinking that there are no such systems that use the engine oil in the MINI? So, there shouldn't be any problem using a slippery oil in an MCS, right?
You're correct - the MINI clutch is a "dry" clutch, and the transmission and differential have their own oil supplies. Actually, I think the manual transmission and differential may use the same oil supply, but in any case, it's separate from the engine oil.
 

Last edited by ScottRiqui; Jul 29, 2007 at 12:31 AM.
Reply
Old Jul 29, 2007 | 12:33 AM
  #20  
Robin Casady's Avatar
Robin Casady
6th Gear
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 7,578
Likes: 5
From: Paradise
Originally Posted by aus
If you get Mobil 1, you should get the 5-40 oil, not the 5-30 since Mobil rate's it's oil on the thin side, comparted to Castro. The Mobil 1 5-40 is actually about as thick as the Castro 5-30. Unfortunately, the 5-40 is much harder to find at non-auto parts stores.
If you want the original Group IV Mobil 1, then you have to get the "Extended" Mobil 1, which is suppose to be what Mobil 1 was before they dropped it to a Group III oil to compete with everyone else calling a Group III oil synthetic... which, unfortunately, is legal in this country. I'm sure Big Oil has a lot to do with this.
Now you tell me. I just changed my oil and used Mobil 1 that I picked up at a local auto supply. It says, "Fully Synthetic," SAE 5-30, ILSAC GF-4, API SM, SL/CF.
 
Reply
Old Jul 29, 2007 | 04:56 AM
  #21  
Arnbut's Avatar
Arnbut
5th Gear
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 895
Likes: 2
From: Canton, GA
Originally Posted by Robin Casady
Now you tell me. I just changed my oil and used Mobil 1 that I picked up at a local auto supply. It says, "Fully Synthetic," SAE 5-30, ILSAC GF-4, API SM, SL/CF.
"full synthetic" unfortunately doesn't mean that it's a POA group IV stock like Amsoil, etc.
You can thank Castrol for that.

If you are really concerned, send your oil samples to Blackstone labs and find out what it's doing.
 
Reply
Old Jul 29, 2007 | 05:10 AM
  #22  
MIN 18's Avatar
MIN 18
3rd Gear
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 207
Likes: 1
i will be changing my oil this week and ill be using motul 300v 5w-30
 
Reply
Old Jul 29, 2007 | 06:25 AM
  #23  
CoryS's Avatar
CoryS
Thread Starter
|
1st Gear
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 28
Likes: 0
I wonder if, even though Amsoil and Motul are "better", Syntec is just as good (but easier to get and less expensive) for someone (like myself) who will be changing it every 5,000 miles.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
minimofo
JCW Garage
7
Nov 5, 2015 08:40 AM
Zettinger
1st Gear
14
Aug 25, 2015 04:04 PM
cmanlu
R58 :: Coupé Talk (2012+)
6
Aug 25, 2015 07:35 AM
Mini Mania
Interior/Exterior Products
0
Aug 24, 2015 03:14 PM
TrueEddie
General Discussion
8
Aug 24, 2015 09:31 AM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:15 PM.