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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 03:50 PM
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This annoy anyone else?

That their shift know isn't tight? I have to say the BMW's way of attaching a shift **** is simply STUPID. The good old screw on type with a set screw were tight as a wedge all the time. My stocker was barely loose but my Whalen Pool **** one is even more loose. If I grab hold of the lever and shake my **** rattles....it annoys the crap out of me. I find myself wiggling it back and forth while I have my hand on it......

So, that annoy anyone else? Anybody know any way to fix it so it's tight as a wedge and no wiggle room? And yes, it's all the way down on the shaft...to some people they probably wouldn't really notice it, but to me who's used to the screw on type ***** that NEVER wiggle, it freaks me out and I don't like it
 
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 04:01 PM
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That would absolutely annoy me. I agree that the best shift ***** screw right onto the stick, and have a set nut underneath.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Liquid
That their shift know isn't tight? I have to say the BMW's way of attaching a shift **** is simply STUPID. The good old screw on type with a set screw were tight as a wedge all the time. My stocker was barely loose but my Whalen Pool **** one is even more loose. If I grab hold of the lever and shake my **** rattles....it annoys the crap out of me. I find myself wiggling it back and forth while I have my hand on it......

So, that annoy anyone else? Anybody know any way to fix it so it's tight as a wedge and no wiggle room? And yes, it's all the way down on the shaft...to some people they probably wouldn't really notice it, but to me who's used to the screw on type ***** that NEVER wiggle, it freaks me out and I don't like it
One of mine is loose???? First time I've heard of that, and I've made a couple thousand of them.

E-mail me, if you'd like; I would like to get to the bottom of this.
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 04:03 PM
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Take it off and give it a few wraps of electrical or hockey stick tape. . . Just around the shaft and only a few turns. I changed to a MOMO **** and had to file off the plastic lip under the **** on the shaft in order to get it fully seated, then wrapped it in tape till tight, then set the screws.

Before:


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Good luck!

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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 04:05 PM
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My Whalen's super tight. Perhaps an enquiry to the Boss Whalen is in order?

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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 04:07 PM
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Man, you gots to be fast on this board!

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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 05:20 PM
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One of mine is loose???? First time I've heard of that, and I've made a couple thousand of them.

E-mail me, if you'd like; I would like to get to the bottom of this.
whamac@msn.com

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Email sent.....and before anyone jumps to any conclusions, the **** is premiere work! The quality is amazing and I love it.......just not sure why it's lose! :(
 
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 06:12 PM
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Wow!! Time from original post to time the manufacturer responded, 12 minutes. Impressive.

I think it's important members post their experience, positive or negative, with both dealers and aftermarket vendors. It may help to weed out the bad ones.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 06:20 PM
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then wrapped it in tape till tight, then set the screws.
There are no screws to set :(
 
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 07:26 PM
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Just for arguements sake, i'm wondering why people want to change their shift *****. I've owned a few manual cars in the past and granted some of the stock ***** were terrible (leading me to purchase aftermarket Momo and OMP *****). On my MCSc, however, I absolutely LOVE the stock ****. Seems to have a decent weight to it and fits perfectly in my hand...
 
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 07:31 PM
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Try driving a MINI with a Whalen **** and you'll see why it's a very popular mod. They are beautifully-made and the weight makes the shifting smoother. Or it seems that way to me, anyway.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 07:46 PM
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I have a custom whalen on my Z3.. and its AWESOME... major difference plus the Z's come right off in your hands, an aftermarket is a must...
I'm not sure if I'm going to get one for the MINI, gotta try the stock first...
 
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by MINIclo
Try driving a MINI with a Whalen **** and you'll see why it's a very popular mod. They are beautifully-made and the weight makes the shifting smoother. Or it seems that way to me, anyway.
Is there a website that shows the *****? Are they all "custom made"?

Thanks in advance.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2006 | 10:28 PM
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Is there a website that shows the *****? Are they all "custom made"?

Thanks in advance.
Whalen is a NAM vendor. Here's the link. Check out the site. Doug Whalen is very happy to personally work with customers to accommodate their custom designs.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 03:38 AM
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I celebrate my Whalen Shift Machine every single day I drive my car, and most days that I don't.

Mine fits perfectly - no wiggle - but then, my stock **** fit perfectly, too. Perhaps there's something wrong with your stick, Liquid

Hope you get to the bottom of it: that would annoy me, as well!
 
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 05:06 AM
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Mine fits perfectly - no wiggle - but then, my stock **** fit perfectly, too. Perhaps there's something wrong with your stick, Liquid
Well, the stocker was hardly loose, it wouldn't rattle or anything...was no where near as loose as the Whalen is. The Whalen is darn annoying...
 
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 06:19 AM
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Well, the stocker was hardly loose, it wouldn't rattle or anything...was no where near as loose as the Whalen is. The Whalen is darn annoying...

Then why don't you simply send it back, for a full refund?

And afterwards, if I were you, I would find out what's wrong with your shift lever.

All of my ***** come with an unconditional 60-day 100% refund guarantee; no questions asked.

By the way; I never did receive an e-mail from you.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Liquid
Well, the stocker was hardly loose, it wouldn't rattle or anything...was no where near as loose as the Whalen is. The Whalen is darn annoying...
I'm wondering if the shaft maybe undersized or the slot in the end is over sized.
Does it wiggle fore and aft or side to side?
 
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 07:56 AM
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Then why don't you simply send it back, for a full refund?
And afterwards, if I were you, I would find out what's wrong with your shift lever.
All of my ***** come with an unconditional 60-day 100% refund guarantee; no questions asked.

By the way; I never did receive an e-mail from you.
Maybe because I want the ****? I emailed you last night to that address from my home account which is the same account I used to pay for the **** in the first place (#6 Pool Ball ****) and have talked to you through before. Why do you think there's something wrong with my lever? I tried a stock one again and it really hardly moves at all, like a hair. This one movies quite a bit though :( But the lever had never been touched til I removed the stock ****...

Originally Posted by JS
I'm wondering if the shaft maybe undersized or the slot in the end is over sized.
Does it wiggle fore and aft or side to side?
It wigges left/right.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 08:07 AM
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Liquid,

You state that your stock **** moves a 'hair'. My stock **** never budged. I too think maybe the toleraances on the stick stalk are off. Get your Whalen back to Doug so he can at least sort out that portion of things. If nothing is out of spec. there, I wish you luck with your dealer.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Liquid
There are no screws to set :(
yea, that's what I did with my MOMO. Be creative, try a single wrap of tape; should be enough to tighten it up. Or see what Doug from whalen suggests. He knows *****.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 08:35 AM
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Liquid,

You state that your stock **** moves a 'hair'.
Well, my father says the "hair" it moves is in my head and it doesn't move at all.....I'm a perfectionist. But he agrees that this one does wiggle. The **** is top notch, great quality, not sure for why it wiggles. I might have a bad lever and thus I'll need to get it fixed or buy an aftermarket short throw lever......hrm
 
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 08:49 AM
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my stock **** is loose. after 900 miles its a bit of a disapointment.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Liquid
Maybe because I want the ****? I emailed you last night to that address from my home account which is the same account I used to pay for the **** in the first place (#6 Pool Ball ****) and have talked to you through before. Why do you think there's something wrong with my lever? I tried a stock one again and it really hardly moves at all, like a hair. This one movies quite a bit though :( But the lever had never been touched til I removed the stock ****...


It wigges left/right.
If it's moving side to side I would guess the shaft is undersized. Have you tried the Whalen **** on another MINI as a test fit?
 
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Old Aug 8, 2006 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Liquid
Well, my father says the "hair" it moves is in my head and it doesn't move at all.....I'm a perfectionist. But he agrees that this one does wiggle. The **** is top notch, great quality, not sure for why it wiggles. I might have a bad lever and thus I'll need to get it fixed or buy an aftermarket short throw lever......hrm
I went with the Alta short shifter and Doug made me a screw on know to fit and it is Great!! I love the short shifter with the Whalen.

Earl
 
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