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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 06:35 AM
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does this seem like a good price?

I really want a sunroof, but I really like the way this Cooper looks. Does this seem like a good price?

http://automart.com/vehicledetail/ad...oper/lorain/oh
 
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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 06:43 AM
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I would think it seems high
 
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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 07:03 AM
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No, especially with out the sunroof. Do some research you can get a brand new stock mc for not too much more. When we decided to get a mini, we first looked at used, and then went to a dealer (in a different state) and couldn't belive that we could get a brand new mc for only $3k more.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 07:12 AM
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are you talking MC or MCS? It seems like prices are all over the place....which site are you guys using to justify prices? KBB, NADA, Edmunds??
 
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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 07:38 AM
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yeh, does seem kinda high.. no aero kit, no sunroof, not sure wat other
options its missing or miles it has on it.

looks more like a 17k car.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 07:50 AM
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I may be in the morning fog, but what is the mileage? I can't find it...
 
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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 07:59 AM
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Is that a JCW brake kit peaking through the front rim? Somebody did the Aero Kit Grill mod on it too.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 08:09 AM
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If you feel you're getting a good deal then, who are we to say otherwise? Do your research and then decide what's best for you.

Just as a reference point, I purchased a new 06' MC for less than that.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 08:34 AM
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The really don't give you alot of the details... The history of the MINI is great, but am I missing the options and mileage?? Options play a HUGE part in the MINIs price... Obviously no premium package, but what about sport or cold weather?? And they say that it has a compact spare; oops!! Definately do some more checking the the options, then build up a brand new one with the same options to see where that takes you!!
 
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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 08:54 AM
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the dealer is a real tool, they must no nothing about this car, because I have asked questions and they hardly have any answers....I guess that is what I should expect from a FORD dealer. I am going to look at the car, it is about a 1 hr 30 min drive for me. I do notice the Aero Grill, and seems like the car has the fender molding painted to match the body, that isn't stock right?

I do know that the miles are at 37,xxx. Doesn't have the sunroof, does have cloth seats, no leather, not sure about anything else.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 09:15 AM
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I agree with Jayde. The ad doesn't give enough info to make a solid judgement. I do like the body-color wheel arches and lower lips. The calipes may just be painted.

The sunroof is a personal thing. I hate it with a passion and would pay more for a car without one than for an otherwise identical car with one. As soon as I see "Premium Pkg" in the option list, the car loses about $2000 in value to me.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 12:43 PM
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fender molding painting was never offered as an option, so yep,
it's aftermarket.

37k miles... that's kinda high for a 03. mine is less than 22k miles...well,
i do have 3 other cars...

Originally Posted by simpsoap
the dealer is a real tool, they must no nothing about this car, because I have asked questions and they hardly have any answers....I guess that is what I should expect from a FORD dealer. I am going to look at the car, it is about a 1 hr 30 min drive for me. I do notice the Aero Grill, and seems like the car has the fender molding painted to match the body, that isn't stock right?

I do know that the miles are at 37,xxx. Doesn't have the sunroof, does have cloth seats, no leather, not sure about anything else.
 
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Old Jul 28, 2006 | 06:30 PM
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If you have done research and like it. Go for it. But personally, it sounds a tad on the high end to me.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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simpsoap: your PM's are turned off.

But to answer your question:

A couple of reasons. 1. It's very loud when open (a MINI 'vert with the top down makes less noise), and 2. the lack of a real sun-shade makes it's brutally hot in the Summer. We get around this to some extent with sunroof decals.
 
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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 01:01 PM
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Wat too high. IMHO

Originally Posted by simpsoap
the dealer is a real tool, they must no nothing about this car, because I have asked questions and they hardly have any answers....I guess that is what I should expect from a FORD dealer. I am going to look at the car, it is about a 1 hr 30 min drive for me. I do notice the Aero Grill, and seems like the car has the fender molding painted to match the body, that isn't stock right?

I do know that the miles are at 37,xxx. Doesn't have the sunroof, does have cloth seats, no leather, not sure about anything else.
I thought I paid a premium for my 2004 Pepper White w/18,400mi
premium pkg (has sunroof)
Sports Pkg
convenience pkg
17" Mini Rim Upgrade
Winter pkg ((I think it's called that (heated seats, washers etc)
Harmon Kardon Stereo
Xenon lights w/washer
f&R Fogs + rain sensor wipers
Ipod acc connection
Cordova leather sports seats and anthricite dash
1 month old Mini/BMW battery(checked with the CA. dealer who did it)
More .....and great shape too and no mods (I liked that)! Not against mods,,,Just I want to be the one who does them!

I paid $24,200 for my 04 MCS and thought it was a bit high. West coast is high on these). Problem was I WANTED THAN CAR and that color!
see my gallery
Go to kbb.com as a starting place! Most Non Mini dealers know NOTHING about them, but they sure know how to charge since they are in demand! Make sure it has 2 master keys and a manual at least if you get him into position (over $300 to replace!)

You may even look around the NAM site and Ebay too! There are a few on NAM and sometimes you save even with the airfare to fly out to look and buy!

Do your homework and never buy from emotion...( I did ...No regrets though)

BTW: never liked sunroofs before...I LOVE THE ONE IN THE MINI!
Good luck and do shop around, or if that is the one for you...CHOMP ON THAT DEALER!
 
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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 06:10 PM
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Hold on a minute!

I live just down the road from this dealer and have seen this car. You may not wish to hear this but It's a piece of junk. It's been abused, won't run right and it's been turbo'd converted. Sales guy I talked to says they'll be sitting on this one for a long time. I fired it up and and shut it right back down and decided to not test drive it it's that bad.

....Les
 
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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 06:19 PM
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No, it's not a good deal.

I just paid $ for an 05 with 13k miles, sports, chrono, cold weather, LSD, Aero grille, Multifunction Steering...full black and anthricitie...
 

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Old Aug 1, 2006 | 07:08 PM
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Build a new one on Mini's website and you may be surprised at how little of a differenece there is between new vs used. Took delivery of a '06 back in February and am reading the invoice (which is what I paid.) Here's the breakdown.

1. MCS: $20,600
2. Metallic paint: $450
3. Sport Package: $1,400
4. Multifunction Steering Wheel: $250.00
5. Chrono Packacke: $300.00
6. Destination: $550.00

Sub Total (everything except taxes and registration which are dependant on location): $23,550

Didn't order the sunroof because, on sunroof equipped cars I've owned in the past, I just didn't use it.

So $19,900 for a three year old car, with 37K and a unknown history, vs $23,500 for a new vehicle (understanding there may be differences in options)? Easy choice for me.

One more thing to remember. After market upgrades typically do not add to the resale price.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2006 | 07:24 PM
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yeah I was just curious what you guys think. this is too far for a drive with not knowing enough about the car. Thanks guys!!!
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