R50/53 BMW waiting list update
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Just thought I would pass this on...
Originally 70 BMW dealerships were to sell the MINI. To date, there is actually only 40 or 50 selling the MINI because of many reasons such as these examples:
BMW in Tacoma, WA: Did not complete MINI showroom so BMW will not let them have any MINIs until it is done which is months away!
BMW in Kansas City: Sold an S Demo, lost their contract with BMW to sell MINIs!
Several other BMW dealerships have not fulfilled their contract with BMW corporate or have sold Demo models or not kept enough MINIs on their lot (MINI dealers are obligated to keep a set number of MINIs on their lot at all times) thus losing their contracts to sell MINIs or BMW has penalized them by not giving them very many MINIs and passing off those cars instead to other dealerships who obey the BMW rules.
It nuts, BMW has crudloads of rules that dealerships must obey to keep getting more cars. If they decide to break the rules, BMW is simply not sending them cars. Hopefully this won't effect your order!
Originally 70 BMW dealerships were to sell the MINI. To date, there is actually only 40 or 50 selling the MINI because of many reasons such as these examples:
BMW in Tacoma, WA: Did not complete MINI showroom so BMW will not let them have any MINIs until it is done which is months away!
BMW in Kansas City: Sold an S Demo, lost their contract with BMW to sell MINIs!
Several other BMW dealerships have not fulfilled their contract with BMW corporate or have sold Demo models or not kept enough MINIs on their lot (MINI dealers are obligated to keep a set number of MINIs on their lot at all times) thus losing their contracts to sell MINIs or BMW has penalized them by not giving them very many MINIs and passing off those cars instead to other dealerships who obey the BMW rules.
It nuts, BMW has crudloads of rules that dealerships must obey to keep getting more cars. If they decide to break the rules, BMW is simply not sending them cars. Hopefully this won't effect your order!
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I do hope this doesn't effect anyone that has and order in already, but, it is great to see BMW reacting to what was starting to go on with some dealerships in the USA. Branding is very important especially when a name is trying to re-establish itself. I was starting to hear things like"the only thing not mini about the MINI is the mark-up". This is a great car, that doesn't need to have it's rep ruined by gouging, greedy dealerships. I'm sure BMW has provided them with a car that will be profitable at MSRP. So if I can give any addvice to anyone out there, that would be read all the posts on all the forums you can. The good dealerships do turn up, and even more apparent are the bad ones. Good luck and good driving.
#4
My understanding is that there are several dealerships in the US only charging MSRP on all of their MINIs. I think it just seems most are charging over because you hear lots of people complaining about it, but don't hear from those getting the cars at fair value.
Noticing though that the dealerships that are charging MSRP are getting swamped by people. So for example here in SLC UT the dealership is now only taking orders from people who live in the state. They will not take out of state offers. Even out of state dealerships are trying to buy MINIs, but are getting denied.
In regards to spec MINI orders... its my understanding now the first ones will hit the US in early to mid July. Those waiting on special orders with the complete Cold Weather package or upgraded Stereo know those parts are delayed till Sept 2. But these cars still might not hit the US until early Oct.
Noticing though that the dealerships that are charging MSRP are getting swamped by people. So for example here in SLC UT the dealership is now only taking orders from people who live in the state. They will not take out of state offers. Even out of state dealerships are trying to buy MINIs, but are getting denied.
In regards to spec MINI orders... its my understanding now the first ones will hit the US in early to mid July. Those waiting on special orders with the complete Cold Weather package or upgraded Stereo know those parts are delayed till Sept 2. But these cars still might not hit the US until early Oct.
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I am happy to say that our South Atlanta MINI dealer is charging MSRP and we are getting our little silver and black loaded Cooper with no dealer mark-up. They are really a class act and have been very straight with us so far. We also have an S on order to replace this one when it becomes available. We have been told to expect a 12 to 14 month wait and are currently nearly #200 on the S waiting list at this dealer. They have two Cooper S models in stock and we got to drive one. I have to say I think there is a big difference. The S really goes when pushed, dispite what some auto magazine articles have said, the S is worth the wait!
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#8
Was in Las Vegas last weekend and stopped by the BMW dealer there. They were selling the Minis for MSRP but were adding on $3500 in options. They indicated that they were selling a number of them to people out of state, particularly to those in Texas. However if the Mini is going out of state, they are adding $3500 without any of the options.
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I have been told different things about the waiting list. I want an automatic with basic options. I'm willing to pay MSRP, but that's it, let's be reasonable. SF says order now, deliver in late june (ro something). MountainView says maybe august. These were casual inquiries only. I may order soon. Who should i believe?
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Originally Posted by Chad
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I was VERY happy w/ my expierence in Mtn View w/ salesman Ben. The Manager Lennie is also a very good guy. Good Luck! Chad :smile:
I was VERY happy w/ my expierence in Mtn View w/ salesman Ben. The Manager Lennie is also a very good guy. Good Luck! Chad :smile:
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Originally Posted by gr8britwjh
A demo model is a car that the dealer held in their inventory so that potential customers could take it out for a test drive.
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I don't know about what happened in 2002, but I can tell you that the BMW dealer in KC, Baron BMW, is in fact a MINI dealer as well today.
So either the original post was incorrect, or their status has changed since then. I honestly don't know which, but again I can confirm they are a MINI dealer today.
So either the original post was incorrect, or their status has changed since then. I honestly don't know which, but again I can confirm they are a MINI dealer today.
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I live in KC and Baron BMW is my dealer. I believe that they still sell MINIs. I bought one of the last ones that they had, but I dont think that is was a demo.
Originally Posted by KC MCS
I don't know about what happened in 2002, but I can tell you that the BMW dealer in KC, Baron BMW, is in fact a MINI dealer as well today.
So either the original post was incorrect, or their status has changed since then. I honestly don't know which, but again I can confirm they are a MINI dealer today.
So either the original post was incorrect, or their status has changed since then. I honestly don't know which, but again I can confirm they are a MINI dealer today.
#24
Originally Posted by Jersey_Bill
Still don't understand the issue unless they are rolling back the odometer. If I am a buyer and see 6,000 miles on the car and it is being represented as "new" (or sold for a new price), isn't that an "all facts on the table" transaction? Maybe that buyer is just happy to have the car despite its demo history? Don't get it. Now, if they are zapping the odo back to zero, then I say "fry em"....
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