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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 01:09 PM
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I want a thicker clutch pedal pad.

Here's the situation: big inflexible left foot (with an ankle brace); clutch pedal is close to the floor (Kenchan doesn't like it either).
If I press the clutch pedal with any part of my foot other than near the toe, the angles of foot and clutch lever intersect and my toe slips sideways under the brake pedal. Not so good.
I can live with it I suppose, but if the pad on the clutch pedal was 3/4 of an inch thicker my situation would be much improved. My proof-of-concept (stacked cardboard and rubber bands, OK?) worked great but it leaves something to be desired from an esthetic viewpoint.
Has anybody run across such a thing or even ever thought it might make their lives better?
 
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 01:21 PM
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I had suggested someone (vendor) make gas, clutch, brake pedals in various thicknesses in the past. I have to sit closer than I want to depress the clutch all the way, gas and brake is OK for me (since I try not to use the brake )

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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 01:25 PM
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I did the same thing you proposed in my old mustang. I put a half inch thick piece of rubber and used rubber cement and glued it to the stock pedal.

The later model MCS has the metal pedals but I believe the MC has a rubber pedal. At least, my friend's mcc did. I believe the early MCS has rubber pedals and I wonder how hard it would be get one and replace the clutch pedal with.

Once and awhile I had to reglue the rubber back on to the pedal but the concept worked for eight years. I can't remember where I picked up the rubber from.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 01:35 PM
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Checking up the street at a local shop that specializes in mobility devices of all sorts... They have fitted cars and vans that I know of with various adaptations for folks with a wide variety of special requirements. Pedal extenders seems like it should be an easy one. If he don't have it, I'm betting he can recommend someone. I'll be right back.

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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 01:46 PM
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from a previous thread

http://www.pedalextenders.com/

edit: I just looked and it seems it might longer then you want it to be.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 01:49 PM
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http://www.google.com/search?num=100...nsions&spell=1
 
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by tattman23
Checking up the street at a local shop that specializes in mobility devices of all sorts... They have fitted cars and vans that I know of with various adaptations for folks with a wide variety of special requirements. Pedal extenders seems like it should be an easy one. If he don't have it, I'm betting he can recommend someone. I'll be right back.

Tatt
<pant, pant>... OK, he had 2 types in stock, and a wide variety available from various catalogs. Of the in-stock ones, one was just way too huge to be of any use. The best fit was a black, powder-coated stainless steel deal, picture a 4" long square steel tube about 2.5" across with one non-slip surface (not rubber), that just clamps on to the pedal... The 2.5" is how much extension you would get.

Cons: The MINI's convex pedal surface would make mounting it securely a challenge, since it's made to rest on a flat surface. The $25.00 price tag i guess pays for the powder coating (it did look sturdy and nice enough). Medical equipment is taxed at 2% (in Illinois at least) rather than the regular sales tax rate, so maybe you can get some of that high price back thru paying less sales tax?

Yes, it's a slow day here at Lake WoBeGone,
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 03:17 PM
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Thanks, all.
Yep, I Google'd pedal extenders and such. Several possibilities in the over-2-inch range but that's not really what I'm thinking of. I just want enough to change the geometry.
I might try the Meanboy Method - buy a spare pad for the pedal (yep, the '05 MC is rubber-ish stuff) and build it up until I like it. It'd be nicer to just be able to buy the part, though.:smile:
 
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by tattman23
<pant, pant>...
And thanks for trying, Tatt. I don't sense a Big Market for a thicker clutch pedal pad. Dang. Back to the drawing board.
 
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnDough
And thanks for trying, Tatt. I don't sense a Big Market for a thicker clutch pedal pad. Dang. Back to the drawing board.
No worries - I might actually pick one up for my spouse (who puts the "short" in "shortcake).

I hope you find a solution right for you - in the meantime, rubber bands and corrugated cardboard can be improved by applying some flat black spray enamel (BEFORE installing on the pedal).

Peace,
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 05:00 PM
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pic sent to me from pedal extenders..I believe it's the four inch extension. Here's the description:

Attach are some photos of the clutch extender for a Mini Cooper. It comes out 2 to 2.5 inches and attach over the clutch metal plate. It's cost $88.00 plus shipping.

 
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Old Sep 9, 2005 | 11:06 PM
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That picture is very instructional - I can see the future from it. Now all i need to make is a "quick release" lever like the wheels on my old ten-speed.

thanks -
 
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Old Sep 10, 2005 | 07:08 AM
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Ive gotten use to it, but it is still annoying sometimes especially after
driving another car with the more popular clutch pedal position. Why
MINI set their clutch this way is a mystery to me. The engagement
point is fine, the pedal is just too close to the floor. and my foot's
only a size 9.... i should have more advantage..but still, the
pedal comes up to the ball of my foot.

It's not so much getting the pedal closer to you, it's more of getting
the pedal higher up in the air away from the floor...which will probably
require extensive modifications to change the pivot area, etc. this
is why I haven't changed the pedal layout on my MCS.

Pedals are usually positioned like this from the floor:

Clutch - high
Brake - middle
Gas - low, but usually much taller than the other pedals.

MCS pedals are positions like this:

Clutch - middle
Brake - middle
Gas - low
 
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 03:25 PM
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Pictures of a Kludge :)

How to do a Kludge on the Clutch Pedal Pad Thickness; and, did it do any good.
I used several layers of leather, and some Gorilla Glue, to increase the thickness of the pad between 1/2 and 3/4 of an inch.

Did you ever use Gorilla Glue? First time for me. It has to be clamped, which is what the steel rod is doing; the plastic keeps glue from getting on the towel (which would make my wife unhappy); the towel serves to distribute pressure over the curved surface.
A closer view. Note the Gorilla Glue oozing out the edges.
This is my foot pressing the clutch pedal to the floor. Think how the angles work: the raised pad gives my toe more clearance from the clutch lever. It actually works.

The kludge in place. If I do it again I'll try to fix the layers in place, to keep them from sliding sideways.

I'm pleased with the result but wondering whether another 1/4 inch would be even better. It's snowing out, so this will have to do until spring.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 06:05 PM
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If you don't mind a wider pedal too, then any of the bling clamp-on pedals from Pep Boys/Target/Walmart will raise the height about 1/2" or make a cheap stylish platform to start modding from. Lot of drilled or mesh styles to choose from.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2005 | 07:13 PM
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Thanks for the thought, but there's no room for wider. The kludge will suffice for now.
 
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