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It depends on where you take the measurement - which should be done on the rim, not the tire.
If you have 16" rims and measure between the beads of the rim at the furthest point forward and compare that to measuring at the furthest point rearward, then 18' total toe is about 0.082 inches difference in the measurements.
Also, alignment measurements should always be done with the car resting on the ground because toe angle changes as the suspension moves (aka "bump steer")
If you have Powerflex front control
arm bushings installed (HIGHLY
recommended) you can go to
almost zero toe out, since
they toe-in under acceleration
much less than the stock bushings.
If you have Powerflex front control
arm bushings installed (HIGHLY
recommended) you can go to
almost zero toe out, since
they toe-in under acceleration
much less than the stock bushings.
what if I just put in "ZERO" toe in... what's the disadvantage of this?
It depends on where you take the measurement - which should be done on the rim, not the tire.
If you have 16" rims and measure between the beads of the rim at the furthest point forward and compare that to measuring at the furthest point rearward, then 18' total toe is about 0.082 inches difference in the measurements.
Also, alignment measurements should always be done with the car resting on the ground because toe angle changes as the suspension moves (aka "bump steer")
0.082 in = 2.0828mm ( for 16" wheels, mine is 17" )
this is close to the BMW table\chart from that youtube video.
It has my notes all over it and I have no idea where I got it, but here it is.
I have 17 inch rims but when I measure them from edge to edge (from the points on the wheels I take the string measurement from) it's 18.25 inches. So I used the 18 inch column.
I aim for 0 toe in the Front & slight toe in for the Rear and I have had good luck with these settings.
I found this website that will run all your numbers for you and spit out everything you need. https://robrobinette.com/DIYAlignmen...oogle_vignette
Everything above is in inches. I and J are the distances I measure on the wheels.
Wheelbase for the r53 is 2467 mm / 97.1 inches goes in box K.
One more thing to keep in mind is thrust angle of the rear wheels, which is part of setting up the rear toe. AND adjustments to your rear camber will affect your toe angle, so adjust camber first.
In the measurements above...the thrust angle of the rear wheels to the front wheels (97 inches away with a .04 angle) is .068 inches off. 1/16 of an inch... pretty good.
It has my notes all over it and I have no idea where I got it, but here it is.
I have 17 inch rims but when I measure them from edge to edge (from the points on the wheels I take the string measurement from) it's 18.25 inches. So I used the 18 inch column.
I aim for 0 toe in the Front & slight toe in for the Rear and I have had good luck with these settings.
I found this website that will run all your numbers for you and spit out everything you need. https://robrobinette.com/DIYAlignmen...oogle_vignette
Everything above is in inches. I and J are the distances I measure on the wheels.
Wheelbase for the r53 is 2467 mm / 97.1 inches goes in box K.
One more thing to keep in mind is thrust angle of the rear wheels, which is part of setting up the rear toe. AND adjustments to your rear camber will affect your toe angle, so adjust camber first.
In the measurements above...the thrust angle of the rear wheels to the front wheels (97 inches away with a .04 angle) is .068 inches off. 1/16 of an inch... pretty good.
Thank you very much man... I will need to somehow replicate\digitize the whole sheet. Let's see if Ai takes it.
Thanks for the link to the Toe Converter calculator.
Not splitting hairs here but it make a very small difference for toe, depending on if you are using:
1) Rim size: 17 inch . OR 2) measuring distance on the rim: 18.25 inches for me when I do the string alignment.
Pluging in 18.25 into the calc & it gave me 2.4mm.
But let's not get crazy... I'm happy with anything within a millimeter of what I'm going for.