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R50/53 No longer able to start engine

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Old Oct 13, 2023 | 11:08 PM
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No longer able to start engine

Awhile back, was not able to start car unless I slammed clutch pedal to floor. That worked for along time although I gradually had to slam clutch pedal harder over time. Now wont start at all no matter how much I slam the clutch pedal. Replaced the clutch safety switch, but that didnt help. One mechanic told me to pull the entire clutch pedal back out away from the floorboard. But that seems the incorrect way. Is there an adjustment to bring the clutch pedal back out so that it can be pushed back in far enough to activate the clutch switch....or is that even a possible cause for the problem? Thanks to all
 
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Old Oct 14, 2023 | 05:48 AM
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Reads like the clutch pedal linkage is not contacting/activating the clutch interlock safety switch. This can arise from wear of the clutch pedal linkage.

But it may be possible due to you slamming the clutch pedal to the floor you have forced the linkage out of alignment or the switch mount out of position. Possibly even damaging/breaking the switch, too.

You can remove the switch and with a volt/ohm meter confirm it still works. Or my experience with other cars is these switches are not that expensive and just buy a new switch.

Last but not least a mechanic offered some advice. I'd do as he advised. While it might seem incorrect he's the mechanic and should know.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2023 | 09:59 PM
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Or code the switch out so it doesn’t look for it when starting.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2023 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by RockC
Reads like the clutch pedal linkage is not contacting/activating the clutch interlock safety switch. This can arise from wear of the clutch pedal linkage.

But it may be possible due to you slamming the clutch pedal to the floor you have forced the linkage out of alignment or the switch mount out of position. Possibly even damaging/breaking the switch, too.

You can remove the switch and with a volt/ohm meter confirm it still works. Or my experience with other cars is these switches are not that expensive and just buy a new switch.

Last but not least a mechanic offered some advice. I'd do as he advised. While it might seem incorrect he's the mechanic and should know.
I replaced the switch already, didnt fix problem. Could jumping the switch work?
 
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Old Oct 16, 2023 | 11:56 AM
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How do you code the switch out?
 
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Old Oct 16, 2023 | 03:21 PM
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INPA+NCSExpert (and I would also recommend NCSDummy). Unfortunately I don’t have the laptop I use for programming handy to check the exact file and option. I may have mentioned it in a previous post, but I don’t recall.
 
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Old Oct 16, 2023 | 03:46 PM
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It’s in EWS, there is an option to ignore the clutch nanny, I enabled it a while back, but then with elementary age child who can turn key but can’t reach pedal, decided to put it back for now.
 
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Old Oct 17, 2023 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Onizukachan
It’s in EWS, there is an option to ignore the clutch nanny, I enabled it a while back, but then with elementary age child who can turn key but can’t reach pedal, decided to put it back for now.
can you explain EWS please and how to access it. In the meantime, is it possible to push start the car so that engine can run go keep fuel from goung bad?
 
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 04:12 AM
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It sounds like you've been having some trouble with your clutch pedal and starting. I'd recommend having a professional take a look to ensure everything is working as it should.
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Old Oct 18, 2023 | 09:17 AM
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You need ncs expert. And yes, try push starting it.
 
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