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Old Mar 12, 2016 | 08:11 PM
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Need a little advice...

From researching the forum I know that first gen minis have significant reliability problems when it comes to the automatic transmission. Was this problem straightened out in the 2005/2006? My wife has her eye on an '06 automatic and I'm wondering if I should steer clear.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2016 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by mdaz75
From researching the forum I know that first gen minis have significant reliability problems when it comes to the automatic transmission. Was this problem straightened out in the 2005/2006? My wife has her eye on an '06 automatic and I'm wondering if I should steer clear.
This doesn't apply to the S model. Different transmission altogether. Is it an S (supercharged) or just regular - non S.

If the non S - no they didn't sort out the issue.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2016 | 05:15 AM
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Main issue for this transmission was the lack of (scheduled ) maintenance. Transmissions for any car should be flushed at 30K. If the one she is looking at has low mileage ( say under 50K ) have the dealer perform a flush and re-adaptions/program. Seen a few on original fluid still running AOK with 100K on the meter, but IMO unless an S as Kahn states, steer clear.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2016 | 05:43 AM
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It's a non-s with 81,000. It looks like I'm going to be letting that one go. Thanks for the info, it's greatly appreciated!
 
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Old Mar 13, 2016 | 06:57 AM
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Old Mar 13, 2016 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by mini_wisconsin
The CVT was in the 2002 - 2006 non S models. It was also used in the convertible from 2005 - 2008.
Ok, so, just to be clear, the automatic in all first gen S's are fine? Another question, how about second gen S's, anything to avoid? I've read that 2007-2010 have their problems, but are they that significant?
 
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Old Mar 13, 2016 | 10:20 AM
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Yes the 1st gen S models are fine...no CVT

The other MINIs to avoid because of the N14 engine are:
2007 - 2010 MINI S
2008 - 2010 MINI Clubman S
2009 - 2010 MINI S Convertible
and the factory JCW through 2012

The N14 engine has carbon build-up issues, excessive oil consumption and timing chain problems.

These cars are a lot of fun to drive. Good luck.

Also, there is a free BMW VIN decoder online which will allow you to check the engine and transmission type.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2016 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by mdaz75
Ok, so, just to be clear, the automatic in all first gen S's are fine? Another question, how about second gen S's, anything to avoid? I've read that 2007-2010 have their problems, but are they that significant?
The auto tranny in the S did not appear till 2005.....the same basic tranny was used on VW and Toyota cars...so it is not a unique unit, unlike the unit on the non-s, which was a CVT..... some did have valve body issues....hung shifts or delayed shifts...you can test drive it ti find out...VW/audi actually did a recall on some units...NOT MINI...
Many folk NEVER changed their fluids.....AND IN A HARD DRIVEN car, it is important...heat and old fluid are the enemy...
Know that a 10+ year old tranny on a 10= year old car is a risk...especially when driven hard....ask for records...do your due diligence...but most any car in this age range will be a risk.....lets face it...if driven hard, and the fluid is not changed, ANY 10 year + tranny is on borrowed time. Just telling you how it is.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2016 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by -=gRay rAvEn=-
Main issue for this transmission was the lack of (scheduled ) maintenance. Transmissions for any car should be flushed at 30K. If the one she is looking at has low mileage ( say under 50K ) have the dealer perform a flush and re-adaptions/program. Seen a few on original fluid still running AOK with 100K on the meter, but IMO unless an S as Kahn states, steer clear.
Hey good too see you back!!
+1 on the advise too!!

Thanks, good to see you stuck around Tim !!
 

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Old Mar 13, 2016 | 11:46 AM
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I have a 2010 MINI Clubman S with the N 14 engine and automatic transmission. I purchased it new, it burns no oil and has been trouble free.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2016 | 08:08 AM
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+1 to keeping up on the services. http://www.pelicanparts.com/catalog/..._pg1.htm#item3

Same with keeping up on the cooling system and frequent oil changes. Just be sure to maintain it well.
 
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