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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 09:47 AM
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Hey guys, haa anyone put a racing harness in their mini, can i use the child seat hooks? Is it worth it/do you regret it?
 
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 09:51 AM
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Harness angles would be wrong, and running true harnesses in stock seats is a bad idea, not only due to the seat being unable to withstand the forces, but the belts won't be positioned properly.

You need to run either a harness bar or a cage with proper seats.
 
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Originally Posted by BadgeFTW
Hey guys, haa anyone put a racing harness in their mini, can i use the child seat hooks? Is it worth it/do you regret it?

Proper way linked in PDF below. If you go with Schroth quick fit.

https://www.ecstuning.com/News/MINI_...006_2007_2008/


Install PDF : http://bd8ba3c866c8cbc330ab-7b26c6f3...structions.pdf


Thats the best option for everyday use. If its a track car only, then roll cage and a proper hook ups
 
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 10:36 AM
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Harness angles would be wrong, and running true harnesses in stock seats is a bad idea, not only due to the seat being unable to withstand the forces, but the belts won't be positioned properly. You need to run either a harness bar or a cage with proper seats.
cant run a cage/ harness bar becuase i sometimes use the backseats for transport and or when people need a ride.
 
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Schroth quick fits will be your best option, please don't try to run harnesses on stock seats and not use a harness bar.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 10:48 AM
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Schroth quick fits will be your best option, please don't try to run harnesses on stock seats and not use a harness bar.
ill just wait to get a cage thanks for the help though. Do you know of any aftermarket seats that utilize the stock movers(the word isnt coming to me right now).
 
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I have yet to put harnesses in my track/dd car due to not having the proper equipment installed in the vehicle to have the harnesses installed safely/properly. I cannot tell you how many people I know that run harnesses in their cars that are very unsafe and improperly installed. Are you talking about the stock seat adjuster (what moves you forward and back)? I know that even Sparco's street application seats most likely still require base/brackets. Have someone here that used to work for them and he confirmed.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by BadgeFTW
ill just wait to get a cage thanks for the help though. Do you know of any aftermarket seats that utilize the stock movers(the word isnt coming to me right now).
Sparco seats will work with stock sliders, there is a couple brackets you'll need to buy to make it work though.

We are an Autopower dealer as well as Sparco, so we can help you out with anything and everything you need to get the job done properly.

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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 11:56 AM
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Thanks for the help guys, im going to think about buying a couple of sparcos and harneses.
 
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Welcome, most of club member i know like the quick fits for DD and track. If you get the set up post some pics of the roll cage/
 
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Originally Posted by BadgeFTW
ill just wait to get a cage thanks for the help though. Do you know of any aftermarket seats that utilize the stock movers(the word isnt coming to me right now).
You didn't say, but do I assume correctly that you want to put a roll cage, racing seats and racing harness because you track your car?

If you are going through all of that extra effort for protection, then I would suggest that you not use slider, especially with a non-stock seat that they have not been tested with. I have seen track cars that have been in an accident and the sliders failed leaving the seat unsupported. The track groups I run with recommends hard mounting when installing a race seat.

On the other hand the Quickfit have been tested and are DOT approved to work with the stock seats. These are a great option for cars that are also DDs. They make two versions and the Pro version is compatible with Hans devices. They mount to the stock seat belt mounting locations and use the stock buckle parts which makes them a simple installation.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2016 | 04:52 PM
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You didn't say, but do I assume correctly that you want to put a roll cage, racing seats and racing harness because you track your car? If you are going through all of that extra effort for protection, then I would suggest that you not use slider, especially with a non-stock seat that they have not been tested with. I have seen track cars that have been in an accident and the sliders failed leaving the seat unsupported. The track groups I run with recommends hard mounting when installing a race seat. On the other hand the Quickfit have been tested and are DOT approved to work with the stock seats. These are a great option for cars that are also DDs. They make two versions and the Pro version is compatible with Hans devices. They mount to the stock seat belt mounting locations and use the stock buckle parts which makes them a simple installation.
i dont trach my MINI i just like the racing harness, extra protection and becuase race car.
 
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A racing harness needs to be at least a 5 point attachment otherwise it is dangerous as you can submerge underneath it in an accident which will cause serious injury and possibly death. They also don't work with the air bags. So, they actually can be more dangerous and less protection than the stock belts. Lastly they are not legal in most states (not DOT approved) that require seat belts to be used and are used by police as an excuse to pull you over...

The Quick Fits are DOT legal and they do prevent submerging under them by working with the stock seatbelt system and they are designed to work with the air bags. Much safer than a race belt for an otherwise stock car and big improvement over a stock belt.
 
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Thanks guys, thank you for the explanation eddie, i want racing harneses for the go-kart feel, but i didnt want to pull the seats out or get new seats ect. Ill think about buying the easy setup harness. Much thanks, cheers, badge from SC
 
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