R50/53 Weird alignment with ie fixed plates
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Not that I can think off the tope of my head, ill test that later. And this alignment was done last year and I've been driving it daily, I haven't notice any unusual tire wear. My tread is about 3/16s of an inch on all four wheels. I definitely didn't install the shocks backwards and I'm fairly certain the camber plates are in the right the spots and not backwards( the arrows are point backwards away from the car
Last edited by micromini234; 05-30-2013 at 04:46 AM.
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Here is what the factory specs are for reference
Front Caster
Left = 4.92 +/- 0.50 / Right = 4.92 +/- 0.50
Cross caster = 0.00 +/- 0.50
Camber
Left = - 0.50 +/- 0.42 / Right = 0.50 +/- 0.42
Cross camber = 0.00 +/- 0.50
Total toe
0.30 +/- 0.08
0.15 +/- 0.04
Rear
Left = -1.53 +/- 0.50 / Right = -1.53 +/- 0.50
Total toe
0.20 +/- 0.07
Thrust angle 0.00 +/- 0.17
0.40 +/- 0.13
Front Caster
Left = 4.92 +/- 0.50 / Right = 4.92 +/- 0.50
Cross caster = 0.00 +/- 0.50
Camber
Left = - 0.50 +/- 0.42 / Right = 0.50 +/- 0.42
Cross camber = 0.00 +/- 0.50
Total toe
0.30 +/- 0.08
0.15 +/- 0.04
Rear
Left = -1.53 +/- 0.50 / Right = -1.53 +/- 0.50
Total toe
0.20 +/- 0.07
Thrust angle 0.00 +/- 0.17
0.40 +/- 0.13
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To the OP. There is a small amount of camber adjustment available in the factory setup just from slop in the bolts mounting the top of the strut to the strut tower. I don't think there would be enough to get you even side to side but it should get you closer. Just keep in mind if you change the camber it will change the toe so you'll have to reset the toe. Honestly though if you're not racing or driving aggressively I wouldn't worry about it
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Thanks v10 ill see what I can do with that. But yeah It doesnt seem to make much sense. the casters not adjustable neither is the camber.. everything is installed right..and not like broken to my knowledge (I took the the wheel of to take a look). ' And im a very aggressive driver I lost grip on a downward U shaped turn going 60 last night.. So I dug up the last alignment.
Last edited by micromini234; 05-30-2013 at 07:37 AM.
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While your experiences are your own. I'm saying what life has taught me in doing alignments, and owning lowered cars for a long time now.
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So I was thinking..
After carefully looking at this.. I can tell you... what they did...
The reason why the car feels "ok".. is because the toe is correct (wheel is straight).. however... front to rear cross camber is whacked.. the LF is counteracting the LR... pull same with the RF and RR... pull.
Camber pulls to the more positive side (least negative..)..
No good alignment tech would ever leave camber reading like that and walk away.. I'd be embarrassed to hand out a printout like that to a customer.
When every you do an alignment.. you always do rear camber 1st.. then toe.. then front camber, caster, and then toe..
Toe is the last adjustment, not the 1st... To me it looks like they only adjusted toe... what shops call "A toe and go" job..
That or.... They added weight to the car to make it look like things changed..
They had the car lifted (not jounced) when they did the baseline measurement (AKA the before)..
Stuff on your car is bent.
Or the tech is a moron who totally left critical measurements out of whack..
After carefully looking at this.. I can tell you... what they did...
The reason why the car feels "ok".. is because the toe is correct (wheel is straight).. however... front to rear cross camber is whacked.. the LF is counteracting the LR... pull same with the RF and RR... pull.
Camber pulls to the more positive side (least negative..)..
No good alignment tech would ever leave camber reading like that and walk away.. I'd be embarrassed to hand out a printout like that to a customer.
When every you do an alignment.. you always do rear camber 1st.. then toe.. then front camber, caster, and then toe..
Toe is the last adjustment, not the 1st... To me it looks like they only adjusted toe... what shops call "A toe and go" job..
That or.... They added weight to the car to make it look like things changed..
They had the car lifted (not jounced) when they did the baseline measurement (AKA the before)..
Stuff on your car is bent.
Or the tech is a moron who totally left critical measurements out of whack..
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