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Old Dec 18, 2012 | 08:15 PM
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loosing oil but not sure how

Hi I just bought an 02 s and i'm loosing oil.. Its not leaking and no fluid in coolant..so it had to be burning right..well it was just smogged and it passed with flying colors.. I just did a tune up n noticed that one of the plugs was loose.. Like less then hand tight.. So I replaced the plugs.. Could that have been the problem? Also wen I put new plugs in I just used regular ngk plugs instead of the factory ones..is that ok? Thank you
 
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Old Dec 18, 2012 | 08:26 PM
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Hi I just bought an 02 s and i'm loosing oil.. Its not leaking and no fluid in coolant..so it had to be burning right..well it was just smogged and it passed with flying colors.. I just did a tune up n noticed that one of the plugs was loose.. Like less then hand tight.. So I replaced the plugs.. Could that have been the problem? Also wen I put new plugs in I just used regular ngk plugs instead of the factory ones..is that ok? Thank you
It could be a bunch of things. First if there is no leak it could be burning a quart per 1000 or more. And at that rate, your would pass SMOG. But if they were never done you may need a cranks position sensor seal, valve cover gasket, or balancer seal. All of them are known to leak and even after replacing they don’t last more than 30,000-40,000 miles.

You may also have a oil pan leak but that is the least likely problem.

But you should check the plugs regularly. Be sure that they are torqued to 20-22 ft lbs and I like to do it when the head is stone cold. If that plug gets really loose and ejects, it will scare the bejesus out of you and will take a bit of effort, or money, to repair. Note that the plugs have washers that are really one time use so tighten them but don’t remove them.

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Old Dec 19, 2012 | 02:35 AM
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Mini's DO tend to burn oil....many anyway...might depend how they were broken in...but some common leaks do not result in drips....the oil blows back...so a good look at the common stuff, and regularly checking your oil level is a good thing.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2012 | 06:19 AM
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According to MINI, one quart every 500 miles is within spec. Common places to loose oil, either through combustion or leaking include: oil pan gasket, oil filter housing, crank sensor seal (front of motor), PCV valve/hoses, and of course engine internals like rings, valve guides. Check the bottom of your oil pan. Is it dry?
 
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Old Dec 19, 2012 | 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Rich.Wolfson
It could be a bunch of things. First if there is no leak it could be burning a quart per 1000 or more. And at that rate, your would pass SMOG. But if they were never done you may need a cranks position sensor seal, valve cover gasket, or balancer seal. All of them are known to leak and even after replacing they don’t last more than 30,000-40,000 miles.

You may also have a oil pan leak but that is the least likely problem.

But you should check the plugs regularly. Be sure that they are torqued to 20-22 ft lbs and I like to do it when the head is stone cold. If that plug gets really loose and ejects, it will scare the bejesus out of you and will take a bit of effort, or money, to repair. Note that the plugs have washers that are really one time use so tighten them but don’t remove them.

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Hey so should I use the recommended plugs or will any kind do fine?
 
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Old Dec 19, 2012 | 09:28 AM
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My 2002 MCS used to "burn" a bit of oil. Never smoked, never leaked. Oil level would just go down over time. I would check it once a month and top it up. No big thing.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2012 | 12:42 PM
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https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ark-plugs.html
 
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Old Dec 19, 2012 | 03:08 PM
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So what your saying is that I should get rid of the single prong n go with the 4 prong or "factory"?
 
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Old Dec 19, 2012 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 1sCoop
So what your saying is that I should get rid of the single prong n go with the 4 prong or "factory"?
Our site only provides information not recommendations. Sorry. But if I was coerced to provide an opinion after nearly seven years of MINI ownership, I would recommend factory--to be on the safe side.
 

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Old Dec 19, 2012 | 05:46 PM
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Well the reason I asked about the plugs is because I recently did a tune up n didn't know the plugs were 4 prong n installed 1 prongs..n noticed a significant mpg decrease.. So go back n get the 4 prong from the auto parts store?
 
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Old Dec 19, 2012 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 1sCoop
Well the reason I asked about the plugs is because I recently did a tune up n didn't know the plugs were 4 prong n installed 1 prongs..n noticed a significant mpg decrease.. So go back n get the 4 prong from the auto parts store?

You could get NGK 4 prongers....
or switch to NGK iridium....
IMO just stick with NGK's (they seem to work well in the MINI), keep them torqued down and keep then fresh....about 30,000 miles with a pulley max.
 
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Old Dec 19, 2012 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by ZippyNH
You could get NGK 4 prongers....
or switch to NGK iridium....
IMO just stick with NGK's (they seem to work well in the MINI), keep them torqued down and keep then fresh....about 30,000 miles with a pulley max.
ok I went n bought the 4 prongers.. So those 1 prongers are no good for mpg on the minis huh?
 
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