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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 04:52 PM
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need comment on my mod

hi, im looking to buy those parts for my mini, do you think some part are not usefull ????

supercharger pulley 15% alta 2.0
sparkplug wires magnecor
brisk premiun spark plug
msd ignition coil upgrade
intake systeme version 2.0
lightened crank pulley 3%
computer tunings
headers obx 1 gen
ultrick camshaft

thanks simon
 
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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 04:57 PM
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good except ( just an opinion)

the msd ignition upgrade may be a bit of a waste. the voltage is the same as the stock one as far as i know so leaving yours as is would be just as good. that being said i plan on getting one just cause the red color looks good
 
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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 05:07 PM
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If you do get a lightened crank pulley, just get the 0%. Bad things happen when you overspin the s/c. Including excessive heat for little to no gains, passing the s/c's redline, over reving the water pump causing cavitation, and excessive strain on the water pump gears, which as it turns out, is the main way that these super chargers fail.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 05:53 PM
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I'd skip the plug wires, coil, and crank pulley.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 06:33 PM
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ok, if i skip those 3, what else should i put.
thanks simon
 
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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 07:19 PM
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What year is your car and what else to you have on it already, if anything?
 
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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by big howe
I'd skip the plug wires, coil, and crank pulley.

+1 on that, unless you have more than 50k mi on your wires. The coil is a silly waste of money. Use the money from these three things for some camber plates or a rear bar.
 
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Old Jun 18, 2008 | 07:38 PM
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Skip the ignition.
Buy Jans cam over the schrick
and think about saving the money to put his shorty header on it
Its stainlesssss so you know its good. besides there are things about it that make it a bit better than other stuff.
If you dont plan on going much past this its kinda pointless though.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by big howe
What year is your car and what else to you have on it already, if anything?
i have nothing in the motors, rear and front sway bar and h&r coil. my motors have 106 mi. this winter i'll open it and put high comp piston and forge the base , maybe buy a mini madness head??
 
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 12:57 PM
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I'm pretty sure the MCS already has forged internals.

Are you going to up the displacement?
 
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by N0mis2
this winter i'll open it and put high comp piston
Nothing like some high-compression pistons to "liven" up a forced-induction engine. You might want to reconsider this approach unless you plan on running methanol or toluene for fuel.

With lots of people hitting 240-250 whp with stock internals and a good head consider the following. Leave the bottom end stock, realize that the stock blower then becomes the limiting factor, and realize that you may mod yourself out of a good daily driver if your power goals exceed that of the stock internals.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 04:04 PM
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here's a thought!

i think you should add fuzzy dice...its bound to make it faster!

but seriously i would say to just go with what you have, spend the extra on some dyno time and tuning that way. when you get into serious mods it is unbelievable what a difference that will make
 
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 04:29 PM
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Originally Posted by N0mis2
hi, im looking to buy those parts for my mini, do you think some part are not usefull ????

supercharger pulley 15% alta 2.0
sparkplug wires magnecor
brisk premiun spark plug
msd ignition coil upgrade
intake systeme version 2.0
lightened crank pulley 3%
computer tunings
headers obx 1 gen
ultrick camshaft

thanks simon


Couple things

1) Yes the MCS has forged internals. Pistons become an issue if you start running much north of 250 whp on the stock blower (Rough number, depends a lot on boost, heat, etc). If you're going to go in and put in forged pistons, you might as well replace the rod bolts too, those aren't of the best quality stock.

2) High compression pistons in an M45 car without running meth injection or race fuel all the time is going to go out with a "Bang" if you know what I mean...

3) Unless you have $$$$$ bumping up the displacement at this point is going to prove cost prohibitive.

4) What's your goal with the car? Power figures of 230-260 whp can be reached with a head, tune, exhaust, pulley, injectors, and intake.


As others mentioned, a lot of the items on your list are superfluous, and not likely to give much (if any) power.
 
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Old Jun 19, 2008 | 07:26 PM
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Sounds like everyone above covered it.
 
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