MTH header and tuner file combo
Originally Posted by ingsoc
vaporware.
here is the lastest dyno.. it shows very rich conditions with the turner file installed. i'm thinking it programmed for a reduction pully more than a stock one. i actually lost power on the dyno because of the rich conditions. i went ahead and reloaded the orginal file back(dinan).. it truely has made the difference.. the car feels like it should with the header installed. i havent had the chance to re dyno the car with the dinan/header combo.. i will as soon as i can. or if MTH guys hurry up and give me i properly tuned file i get it dynoed again asap... needless to say this dyno is not what i was looking for. but, there is hope at the end of the tunnel....(lean me out, man!) 
dinan program with my other mods minus the header got me 172hp.. the most i reicieved with the tuner/header combo is 168..
not good.. i'm working with MTH to tune my car further.. i will post update dynos when i can..
peace
Originally Posted by BMDoubleU
i actually lost power on the dyno because of the rich conditions.
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Originally Posted by ingsoc
NO KIDDING on rich, huh? Holy!!!! Ok, well, it's their header and they write the software, both of which are NOT cheap, so they better make good by you. I am sorry to see, but you've very well hit the nail....that's richer than...a stock MCS [lol!]
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.. i might end up with a pully mod after all..
Seems to me the motor is close to stock....
Originally Posted by ingsoc
I do not wish this to be anything but a comment, but I'm a bit disappointed in the way you're marketing this package by referencing the above car. A quick look at http://www.essentialmini.co.uk/RALLY.htm
readily reveals that this car is completely gutted and modded beyond what you're implying. Here are the mods, according to the site:
Engine / gearbox
M7 Enlarged Throttle Body
CST "RALLY" Remap (Courtesy of MTH Cartune)
CST/MTH Exhaust manifold
Standard Gearbox
Leda Forest Spec. Suspension
spherical front top mounts
1.5 degs - 2.0 degs negative camber.
Spax Tarmac Spec. Suspension-
adjustable for height, bump and rebound
Nylon rear top mount bushes
Eibach 2.25I.D. / 225lb springs at the front - Forest
Eibach 2.25I.D. / 150lb springs at the rear – Forest
Wheels-
15" Alloy wheels with Yokohama Gravel tyres – Forest
17" Alloy wheels with Michelin cut slick tyres – Tarmac
Extra`s-
Full roll cage
Carbon/Kevlar competition seats, sabelt quick release harnesses
Vertical hydraulic handbrake, Cockpit adjustable brake bias
Plumbed in fire extinguishers for cockpit and engine
Interior and exterior battery isolator switches
Alloy sump guard , Kevlar tank guard
Polycarbonate under body protection
Polycarbonate windows
Front strut brace
The car is completely gutted (massive weight savings) and has polycarb windows. It also seems to have a custom 'rally' ECU tune. I really don't feel that posting a clip of that car without revealing the above is fair. It certainly gave me a false impression.
readily reveals that this car is completely gutted and modded beyond what you're implying. Here are the mods, according to the site:
Engine / gearbox
M7 Enlarged Throttle Body
CST "RALLY" Remap (Courtesy of MTH Cartune)
CST/MTH Exhaust manifold
Standard Gearbox
Leda Forest Spec. Suspension
spherical front top mounts
1.5 degs - 2.0 degs negative camber.
Spax Tarmac Spec. Suspension-
adjustable for height, bump and rebound
Nylon rear top mount bushes
Eibach 2.25I.D. / 225lb springs at the front - Forest
Eibach 2.25I.D. / 150lb springs at the rear – Forest
Wheels-
15" Alloy wheels with Yokohama Gravel tyres – Forest
17" Alloy wheels with Michelin cut slick tyres – Tarmac
Extra`s-
Full roll cage
Carbon/Kevlar competition seats, sabelt quick release harnesses
Vertical hydraulic handbrake, Cockpit adjustable brake bias
Plumbed in fire extinguishers for cockpit and engine
Interior and exterior battery isolator switches
Alloy sump guard , Kevlar tank guard
Polycarbonate under body protection
Polycarbonate windows
Front strut brace
The car is completely gutted (massive weight savings) and has polycarb windows. It also seems to have a custom 'rally' ECU tune. I really don't feel that posting a clip of that car without revealing the above is fair. It certainly gave me a false impression.
And for what it's worth... I've had MTH for a long while and have ordered the tuner file. I have an OBX header, and a GTech performance meter. Since I can upload any file easily, when I get it you can expect some GTech data (Wideband too). It's not absolute value, but I'm perfectly happy to post dyno runs that don't show what I paid for (look at my TB posts for an example), so if you all hold your horses, there will be more numbers to debate.
Matt
Originally Posted by skuzy
what were u running to get 172 WHP to begin with? just an alta cai and miltek catback?
i have the new files.. i'm just waiting for the car..
Originally Posted by ingsoc
I do not wish this to be anything but a comment, but I'm a bit disappointed in the way you're marketing this package by referencing the above car. A quick look at http://www.essentialmini.co.uk/RALLY.htm
readily reveals that this car is completely gutted and modded beyond what you're implying. Here are the mods, according to the site:
Engine / gearbox
M7 Enlarged Throttle Body
CST "RALLY" Remap (Courtesy of MTH Cartune)
CST/MTH Exhaust manifold
Standard Gearbox
Leda Forest Spec. Suspension
spherical front top mounts
1.5 degs - 2.0 degs negative camber.
Spax Tarmac Spec. Suspension-
adjustable for height, bump and rebound
Nylon rear top mount bushes
Eibach 2.25I.D. / 225lb springs at the front - Forest
Eibach 2.25I.D. / 150lb springs at the rear – Forest
Wheels-
15" Alloy wheels with Yokohama Gravel tyres – Forest
17" Alloy wheels with Michelin cut slick tyres – Tarmac
Extra`s-
Full roll cage
Carbon/Kevlar competition seats, sabelt quick release harnesses
Vertical hydraulic handbrake, Cockpit adjustable brake bias
Plumbed in fire extinguishers for cockpit and engine
Interior and exterior battery isolator switches
Alloy sump guard , Kevlar tank guard
Polycarbonate under body protection
Polycarbonate windows
Front strut brace
The car is completely gutted (massive weight savings) and has polycarb windows. It also seems to have a custom 'rally' ECU tune. I really don't feel that posting a clip of that car without revealing the above is fair. It certainly gave me a false impression.
readily reveals that this car is completely gutted and modded beyond what you're implying. Here are the mods, according to the site:
Engine / gearbox
M7 Enlarged Throttle Body
CST "RALLY" Remap (Courtesy of MTH Cartune)
CST/MTH Exhaust manifold
Standard Gearbox
Leda Forest Spec. Suspension
spherical front top mounts
1.5 degs - 2.0 degs negative camber.
Spax Tarmac Spec. Suspension-
adjustable for height, bump and rebound
Nylon rear top mount bushes
Eibach 2.25I.D. / 225lb springs at the front - Forest
Eibach 2.25I.D. / 150lb springs at the rear – Forest
Wheels-
15" Alloy wheels with Yokohama Gravel tyres – Forest
17" Alloy wheels with Michelin cut slick tyres – Tarmac
Extra`s-
Full roll cage
Carbon/Kevlar competition seats, sabelt quick release harnesses
Vertical hydraulic handbrake, Cockpit adjustable brake bias
Plumbed in fire extinguishers for cockpit and engine
Interior and exterior battery isolator switches
Alloy sump guard , Kevlar tank guard
Polycarbonate under body protection
Polycarbonate windows
Front strut brace
The car is completely gutted (massive weight savings) and has polycarb windows. It also seems to have a custom 'rally' ECU tune. I really don't feel that posting a clip of that car without revealing the above is fair. It certainly gave me a false impression.
If you Put the rally car on the rolling road, all them weight savings wouldnt have made a difference any way to what power it pulls from the engine.
Cheers
Simon
Originally Posted by BMDoubleU
i was runing 91 octane, miltek cat-back, alta intake(stock hose) and dinan stage 3 programing.. it worked well... i imagine with the dinan prgramiing and mth header i'm up there at 180hp or more..(butt dyno says so) hopefully with the new files i'll get even more...
i have the new files.. i'm just waiting for the car..
i have the new files.. i'm just waiting for the car..

also are u experiencing any 'flat spots' at abou 3 - 4k rpm with the MTH??
for more details see this thread
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=53921
Yes but....
Originally Posted by Cooper_Si
If you Put the rally car on the rolling road, all them weight savings wouldnt have made a difference any way to what power it pulls from the engine.
matt
Originally Posted by skuzy
cool .. ! let us know how u go with the new mth..
also are u experiencing any 'flat spots' at abou 3 - 4k rpm with the MTH??
for more details see this thread
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=53921
also are u experiencing any 'flat spots' at abou 3 - 4k rpm with the MTH??
for more details see this thread
https://www.northamericanmotoring.co...ad.php?t=53921
we shall see if a serious flat spot occurs. my car seems very strong from the factory. maybe i'm just lucky..
peace..
dynapack
I want to see the dyno results by dynapack.
Bosch date shows always high results.
Here in Japan
Saclam dynos their mini
Saclam dyno mini cooper S.
(saclam exhaust + header 169.5ps dynapack)
(Saclam airbox+ Exhaust + header +JCW 186-188PS dynapack)
http://www.saclam.com/short_topics/c..._dynapack.html
Bosch date shows always high results.
Here in Japan
Saclam dynos their mini
Saclam dyno mini cooper S.
(saclam exhaust + header 169.5ps dynapack)
(Saclam airbox+ Exhaust + header +JCW 186-188PS dynapack)
http://www.saclam.com/short_topics/c..._dynapack.html
Originally Posted by mini_r53
I want to see the dyno results by dynapack.
Bosch date shows always high results.
Here in Japan
Saclam dynos their mini
Saclam dyno mini cooper S.
(saclam exhaust + header 169.5ps dynapack)
(Saclam airbox+ Exhaust + header +JCW 186-188PS dynapack)
http://www.saclam.com/short_topics/c..._dynapack.html
Bosch date shows always high results.
Here in Japan
Saclam dynos their mini
Saclam dyno mini cooper S.
(saclam exhaust + header 169.5ps dynapack)
(Saclam airbox+ Exhaust + header +JCW 186-188PS dynapack)
http://www.saclam.com/short_topics/c..._dynapack.html
...but are them base units that attach to the wheels safe like that ?
...but are them base units that attach to the wheels safe like that ?
[/QUOTE]yeah very safe. no one uses dynapack in UK?
(I think) dynapack is more accurrate than roller one. ???
Ditto............................
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@ joker....maybe its me, but i (in all my years in the trade) have NEVER seen anything like that...looks unsafe to me to be honest
Originally Posted by Cooper_Si
@ joker....maybe its me, but i (in all my years in the trade) have NEVER seen anything like that...looks unsafe to me to be honest 
hey guys, just to let you know. i've have the new leaned out mth header file necessary to produce maximum gains on the dyno.. so, hopfully by saturday you'll see the result you and i been waiting for... "come on, 200!"
FYI,
Dynapack dynos are fairly common for tuners. It's a load based dyno (actually several of them) that bolt directly to the hubs. The results aren't directly comparable to dynos that leave the wheels/tires on (like a Dynojet or Mustang) since they encounter different losses. But, for people doing actual tuning, they work pretty well and are arguably safer than other dyno types (not that any properly operated dyno is unsafe).
http://www.dynapack.com/
Dynapack dynos are fairly common for tuners. It's a load based dyno (actually several of them) that bolt directly to the hubs. The results aren't directly comparable to dynos that leave the wheels/tires on (like a Dynojet or Mustang) since they encounter different losses. But, for people doing actual tuning, they work pretty well and are arguably safer than other dyno types (not that any properly operated dyno is unsafe).
http://www.dynapack.com/
Originally Posted by joker
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